Hey! My turn for the less than enlightened questions of the day: yup (back in the day) had PASV ftp support, but I can't seem to find any mention of this in the yum docs. Does yum/urlgrabber have pasv FTP support? I got a user with a firewall and er.. well.. you probably get the picture ;-) -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby <nhruby@xxxxxxx> uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free -------------------------------------------