This may be of use to someone else so here it is, its not very clever but is useful http://hepunx.rl.ac.uk/~traylens/rpms/yumit or /afs/rl.ac.uk/user/t/traylens/public_html/rpms/yumit contains yumit-1.2-2.src.rpm yumit-client-1.2-2.noarch.rpm yumit-server-1.2-2.noarch.rpm The client effectivly runs `yum update` to get a list of packages that should be upgraded and stores all of this output in a central mysql database. The server portion is just php scripts to browse all your hosts and rpms to see what rpms should be installed where. I suppose this generates a request from me. While `yum update` is great at generating a list of what should be installed what are the chances of `yum outofdate` or something that would generate a list of all packges with their versions that would be upgraded or removed if I was ran `yum -y update`. It would useful to be able to browse the packages that are installed that should not be , hmmm guess I should learn some python. Steve -- Steve Traylen s.traylen@xxxxxxxx http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/