-----Original Message----- > > > > crash> ps -m | head > > > > [ 0 00:59:36.582] [RU] PID: 4023608 TASK: ffff916f7c6b1840 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "makedumpfile" > > > > ^^^^^^^^^(1) > > > > [ 0 00:59:37.831] [ID] PID: 413 TASK: ffff916f772d3080 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "kworker/15:1H" > > > > [ 0 00:59:39.765] [IN] PID: 3929504 TASK: ffff916f5f0748c0 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "respawn_actlog" > > > > [ 0 00:59:40.650] [IN] PID: 1974 TASK: ffff91647dc53080 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "CPU 2/KVM" > > > > [ 0 00:59:41.925] [IN] PID: 1297 TASK: ffff916f63c46100 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "NetworkManager" > > > > [ 0 00:59:42.944] [ID] PID: 3763057 TASK: ffff9160c4519840 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "kworker/15:0" > > > > [ 0 00:59:42.944] [IN] PID: 101 TASK: ffff916040c91840 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "migration/15" > > > > [ 0 00:59:43.078] [IN] PID: 100 TASK: ffff916040c5b080 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "watchdog/15" > > > > [ 0 00:59:47.533] [IN] PID: 1292 TASK: ffff916f63c43080 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "lsmd" > > > > [ 0 00:59:49.089] [IN] PID: 113105 TASK: ffff9160412248c0 CPU: 15 COMMAND: "kvm-nx-lpage-re" > > > > ^^^^^^^(2) > > > > (1) large difference from zero > > > > (2) large differences among CPUs (probably due to the differences of irq time) > > > > > > > > (1) might be solved with rq->clock_task, but (2) will be misleading and confusing. > > > > So currently I'm thinking that the "ps -l|-m" options should not use the se.exec_start. > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. (As you indicated) Since rq->clock cannot hold accurate > > > timestamp we can rely on, > > > "ps -l|-m" options should not access the se.exec_start in case of kernel image > > > without CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS or CONFIG_SCHED_INFO. > > > > > > Thanks for your code review. > > > If there is something to improve, let me propose a patch again. > > > > Sure. > > > > I think that the se.exec_start itself may be somewhat useful, especially for > > dumpfiles without CONFIG_SCHED{STATS,_INFO}, but not suitable for the current > > "ps -l|-m" behavior. There may be another way to make good use of it. > > > > Now that you consider se.exec_start to be useful indicator, > how about adding seperate option to ps(ex: "ps -e") which display all processes > sorted with most recently-run process based on se.exec_start? Do you mean that it displays all processes together in a list sorted with (rq->clock_task - se.exec_start)? If so, personally I would not recommend it, because rq->clock{,_task} may not be updated when a CPU stalls. I've seen such a vmcore occasionally, which "runq -T" shows a big time lag on a CPU. In such a case, if they are sorted with the above, the result will be misleading and hard to realize, I think. (So it makes sense to me that the "ps -m" also sorts processes with the value of last_arrival, not with (rq->clock - last_arrival).) But adding a new option may be a possible way to use the se.exec_start. If we do so, I would suggest to display processes for each CPU to avoid misleading. For example, you can see the -C with -l option display processes for each CPU (with CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS or CONFIG_SCHED_INFO): crash> ps -l -C 0-1 CPU: 0 [23604910745100388] [IN] PID: 1332212 TASK: ffff916f76718000 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "kvm-pit/1332189" [23604909788870007] [IN] PID: 1950 TASK: ffff916eabc06100 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "qemu-kvm" [23604909299613494] [IN] PID: 2347388 TASK: ffff916d539e6100 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "CPU 3/KVM" ... CPU: 1 [23604910550325113] [IN] PID: 1744 TASK: ffff916f6e250000 CPU: 1 COMMAND: "tuned" ... Like the above, the new -e option displays processes for each CPU without -C, in other words, it cannot display all processes in a list: crash> ps -e CPU: 0 [23597255887600040] [IN] PID: 1332212 TASK: ffff916f76718000 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "kvm-pit/1332189" [23597254932332895] [IN] PID: 1950 TASK: ffff916eabc06100 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "qemu-kvm" [23597254443638756] [IN] PID: 2347388 TASK: ffff916d539e6100 CPU: 0 COMMAND: "CPU 3/KVM" ... CPU: 1 [23599915368410083] [IN] PID: 1744 TASK: ffff916f6e250000 CPU: 1 COMMAND: "tuned" ... This is a possible way I think of. Do you think this is useful? Thanks, Kazu > > This does not affect "ps -l|-m" output at all. > If you agree with this idea, let me send another patch soon. > > Anyway thanks for feedback and great code review. > > BR, > Austin Kim > > > Thanks, > > Kazu > > -- Crash-utility mailing list Crash-utility@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/crash-utility Contribution Guidelines: https://github.com/crash-utility/crash/wiki