On 9/18/13 10:17 PM, "Dave Anderson" <anderson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >> On 09/17/2013 09:23 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> On 09/17/2013 03:33 PM, HATAYAMA Daisuke wrote: >> >>> (2013/09/17 16:12), Jingbai Ma wrote: >> >>>> On 09/17/2013 02:55 PM, HATAYAMA Daisuke wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> int32_t, int64_t, uint64_t, etc ... are parts of C99 standard: >> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_data_types >> >>>> All there types have been supported by GCC, so them should work on >>all >> >>>> the architectures. >> >>>> >> >>>> Although change these persistent data structure will affect both >> >>>> makedumpfile and crash utility, but we will benefit from the >> >>>> consistent data structures independent from architectures. We can >> >>>> analyze a dumpfile on a OS with different architecture than the >> >>>> crashed OS. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> I know stdint.h things and usefulness if we can use crash and >>makedumpfile >> >>> for a multiple architectures on single arch. In fact, crash already >>supports >> >>> cross platform build among some architectures thanks to Dave. >> > >> > But only if the host and target architectures have the same >>endian-ness and >> > whose data type sizes match. >> > >> >> If we have a standard for the dump file format, we can handle all the >>endian-ness issues. >> I know it may affect the dumping speed on the platform that has to >> convert the byte order. But at least we can specify the byte order for >> dump file header. It won't cost too much. >> >> > The only problem that has ever been seen with the current header >>declarations >> > is if an x86 crash binary is built to support the 32-bit ARM >>architecture. >> > For x86, the 64-bit off_t variables can start on a 4-byte boundary, >>but on ARM, >> > they have to start on an 8-byte boundary. That being the case, the >>off_t >> > offset_vmcoreinfo is at offset 20 when built on an x86, and at offset >>24 >> > when built on ARM: >> >> This could be addressed through compiler attributes: >> off_t offset_vmcoreinfo __atttribute__ ((aligned(8)); >> offset_vmcoreinfo will be the same 8-byte boundary on x86 as same as ARM >> >> > >> > struct kdump_sub_header { >> > unsigned long phys_base; >> > int dump_level; /* header_version 1 and >>later */ >> > int split; /* header_version 2 and >>later */ >> > unsigned long start_pfn; /* header_version 2 and >>later */ >> > unsigned long end_pfn; /* header_version 2 and >>later */ >> > off_t offset_vmcoreinfo; /* header_version 3 and >>later */ >> > unsigned long size_vmcoreinfo; /* header_version 3 and >>later */ >> > off_t offset_note; /* header_version 4 and >>later */ >> > unsigned long size_note; /* header_version 4 and >>later */ >> > off_t offset_eraseinfo; /* header_version 5 and >>later */ >> > unsigned long size_eraseinfo; /* header_version 5 and >>later */ >> > }; >> > >> >> Do you like this change? >> struct kdump_sub_header { >> unsigned long phys_base; >> int dump_level; >> int split; >> unsigned long start_pfn; >> unsigned long end_pfn; >> off_t offset_vmcoreinfo __atttribute__ ((aligned(8)); >> unsigned long size_vmcoreinfo; >> off_t offset_note __atttribute__ ((aligned(8)); >> unsigned long size_note; >> off_t offset_eraseinfo __atttribute__ ((aligned(8)); >> unsigned long size_eraseinfo; >> }; >> >> Then you can get rid of the padded struct kdump_sub_header_ARM_target in >> crash utility. > >Adding the aligned(8) attribute to the kdump_sub_header would break >compatibility with all of the old/current 32-bit x86 dumpfiles that >have it aligned on an 4-byte boundary. How do you propose working >around that? > >> >> Or we can go further, redefine whole structure and set all fields with >> specific bit width. >> >> struct kdump_sub_header { >> uint64_t phys_base; >> int32_t dump_level; >> int32_t split; >> uint64_t start_pfn; >> uint64_t end_pfn; >> uint64_t offset_vmcoreinfo; >> uint64_t size_vmcoreinfo; >> uint64_t offset_note; >> uint64_t size_note; >> uint64_t offset_eraseinfo; >> uint64_t size_eraseinfo; >> }; >> >> I have checked the code of crash utility, it shouldn't affect too much, >> only in diskdump.c and diskdump.h. >> >> > So for that anomoly, crash has to support a >>kdump_sub_header_ARM_target >> > structure that has a pad integer after the end_pfn variable. >> > >> >>> >> >>> My question came from the fact that it looks like you introduced a >>single >> >>> modified kdump_sub_header structure for all the architectures. They >>might >> >>> have different combination of length between int and long and maybe >> >>> also have other each architecture specific incompatibility. It >>wouldn't >> >>> work well. >> >>> >> >>> But from your reply, I think you mean a fully new header for >>kdump-compressed >> >>> format, right? If so, it must work well. But of course you need to >>modify >> >>> both of makedumpfile and crash utility to support it. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Yes, I would like to have a new header for kdump-compressed format. >>But >> >> I'm not sure how much code will be affected in makedumpfile and >>crash utility. >> >> I'm still under investigating, any ideas would be appreciated. >> > >> > The challenging part will be the requirement to maintain >>backwards-compatibility, >> > at least in the crash utility. And backwards-compatibility would >>also be required >> > in makedumpfile, right? For example, if you want to re-filter an >>older compressed >> > kdump. >> > >> >> It's not a big deal, we can check the header_version to decide treat it >> as traditional format or new format. >> We can preserve the current structures as kdump_sub_header_v5 , >> kdump_sub_header_v5, etc... in both makedumpfile and crash utility. > >OK, but I still don't see how to avoid carrying two versions of >kdump_sub_header_v5 >to handle the current ARM-on-x86 support. Or doing some kind of similar >kludge... > >Supporting both a kdump_sub_header and a kdump_sub_header_v5 is going to >make >read_dump_header() a bit tricky. I suppose after reading the raw >kdump_sub_header >block (of either type), if it's v5 or less you could copy the individual >fields >from the kdump_sub_header_v5 to the new kdump_sub_header before >referencing them? Yes, I was want to do this, but now I would make it easier, just like you said, add a new 64-bit max_mapnr into the kdump_sub_header. > >> > But if -- as has been done so far -- an increment of the >>header_version in the >> > disk_dump_header to signal an additional field in the >>kdump_sub_header would be >> > trivial to implement. >> >> Yes, this approach is more simpler, but the drawback is we have to add a >> new 64bit max_mapnr_64 to disk_dump_header, then we will have two >> max_mapnr* fields, not very nice. And when we add more platforms, we >> still have to take care of the bit width and alignment. >> Should we fix it in this version or just leave it as it used to be? > >Note that I suggested above that the 64-bit max_mapnr be added to >the kdump_sub_header, so that the disk_dump_header itself can remain >backwards-compatible. OK, this approach seems better and less risks. I will prepare patches for makedumpfile and crash utility soon. Thanks! > >Dave -- Thanks, Jingbai Ma -- Crash-utility mailing list Crash-utility@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/crash-utility