On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 09:33:13AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 12:48:44PM +0530, K.Prasad wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:04:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:02:03PM +0530, K.Prasad wrote: > > > > There are certain types of crashes induced by faulty hardware in which > > > > capturing crashing kernel's memory (through kdump) makes no sense (or sometimes > > > > dangerous). > > > > > > > > A case in point, is unrecoverable memory errors (resulting in fatal machine > > > > check exceptions) in which reading from the faulty memory location from the > > > > kexec'ed kernel will cause double fault and system reset (leaving no > > > > information for the user). > > > > > > Prasad, > > > > > > I am just trying to remember what was wrong with Andi's approach of > > > disable MCE while copying the dump? > > > > > > > Hi Vivek, > > The behaviour upon a read operation on an UC memory location is > > undefined and so we want to avoid it (previously discussed here: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1146799). When we disable > > MCE and copy the dump, we will invariably read the faulty memory > > location. > > Right, from the message above: > > "- To disable MCE exceptions as done by the patches cited above. However > the result of a read operation on corrupted memory is unknown and the > system behaviour is undefined. We're unsure if this is a safe thing to > do." > > Can you elaborate more on that? Are we talking poisoned memory here or > undetected and uncorrectable memory errors? > It refers to uncorrected memory errors that are not consumed and the corresponding 'struct page's are marked PG_hwpoison. Typically the SRAO type errors that are handled in mm/memory-failure.c. If MCE is enabled, during a kdump, we will deliberately trigger a read operation over the poisoned memory and make the UCE fatal. It is not clear what would happen if MCE is disabled in the above case. Thanks, K.Prasad -- Crash-utility mailing list Crash-utility@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/crash-utility
