Re: autostart fails on host boot. NAT-bridge doesn't come up fast enough

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On 8/26/24 12:33 PM, Fred Clift wrote:
I have 18 VMs that are all supposed to attach to a NAT-bridge.

The bridge definition seems to be ok - it used to work when I didn't have any guests defined.  It worked when I had only a couple guests defined.  Now that I have 18 of them, it seems to take more than a minute for virbr0 to come up, and the guests all fail to autostart because the bridge doesn't exist yet.


Are your guest interfaces defined with "<interface type='network'> ... <source network='default'/>"? Or are they defined with "<interface type='bridge'> ... <source bridge='virbr0'/>"?


If it's the former, then libvirt *should* make sure that the network is started by the time any guest needs it (perhaps that changed when we switched to having a separate daemon for the network driver and the qemu driver, and we just never noticed it until now?) If this isn't working properly, we should definitely fix it.


However, if your guest configs are using the latter config, then there is no official guarantee that the virtual network will be active (and thus the virbr0 bridge will be available) when the guest starts.


If you can verify which method your guests are using, that could affect the direction of investigation.



The host system (AlmaLinux 9.4) has dual Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680v4 with plenty of cores and ram.

Is there some easy way to delay the start of the guests to wait for virbr0 to be up?  Or can I specify a boot order?  I assume that libvirtd autostarts networks before guests but I really have no idea...  Can I specify an autostart dependency?

As a stopgap measure I turned 'autostart' off on these and made a systemd-run bash script that just starts the network, and then  starts the guests all serially.  It has worked 10 or so test boots in a row.  I'd prefer not to have to use an external script if possible.

Fred Clift





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