Re: plug pre-created tap devices to libvirt guests

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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:59:03PM +0200, Miguel Duarte de Mora Barroso wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:03 PM Laine Stump <lstump@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/6/20 9:54 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 03:47:01PM +0200, Miguel Duarte de Mora Barroso wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I'm aware that it is possible to plug pre-created macvtap devices to
> > >> libvirt guests - tracked in RFE [0].
> > >>
> > >> My interpretation of the wording in [1] and [2] is that it is also
> > >> possible to plug pre-created tap devices into libvirt guests - that
> > >> would be a requirement to allow kubevirt to run with less capabilities
> > >> in the pods that encapsulate the VMs.
> > >>
> > >> I took a look at the libvirt code ([3] & [4]), and, from my limited
> > >> understanding, I got the impression that plugging existing interfaces
> > >> via `managed='no' ` is only possible for macvtap interfaces.
> >
> >
> > No, it works for standard tap devices as well.
> >
> >
> > The reason the BZs and commit logs talk mostly about macvtap rather than
> > tap is because 1) that's what kubevirt people had asked for and 2) it
> > already *mostly* worked for tap devices, so most of the work was related
> > to macvtap (my memory is already fuzzy, but I think there were a couple
> > privileged operations we still tried to do for standard tap devices even
> > if they were precreated (standard disclaimer: I often misremember, so
> > this memory could be wrong! But definitely precreated tap devices do work).
> >
> 
> It's been a while since I've started this thread, but lately I've
> understood better how tap devices work, and that new insight makes me
> wonder about a couple of things.
> 
> Our ultimate goal In kubevirt is to consume a pre-created tap device
> by a kubernetes pod that doesn't have the NET_ADMIN capability.
> 
> After looking at the current libvirt code, I don't think that is
> currently supported, since we'll *always* enter the
> `virNetDevTapCreate` function in [1] (I'm interested in the *tap*
> scenario).
> 
> The tap device is effectively created in that function - [2] - by
> opening the clone device (/dev/net/tun), and calling `ioctl(fd,
> TUNSETIFF,...)` in it. AFAIK, both of those operations *require* the
> NET_ADMIN capability. If I'm correct, this means that the current
> libvirt implementation makes our goals impossible to achieve.

AFAIK, that is not correct - CAP_NET_ADMIN isn't required to open
or create a tap device - only to add the tap device to a bridge.

So if you create the tap device & attach it to a bridge ahead of
time, libvirt should then be able to open it and give it to QEMU


Regards,
Daniel
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