Re: Modify Iptables Rules (virbr0 & virbr1)

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On 08/13/2013 07:07 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> On 08/13/2013 06:31 AM, Laine Stump wrote:
>> Correct. That is a known problem since 2008:
>>
>>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453580
> Thanks Laine for confirming it is a known issue.  I googled it a lot but
> couldn't find that bugzilla entry.
>
> Do you know if this is still the case with the upcoming Fedora 20 &
> firewalld? (these rules are still being created)?

There hasn't been any substantial change in the iptables rules added by
libvirt for virtual networks in a long time; libvirt's firewalld usage
is in the form of sending firewall-cmd exactly the same rules that were
previously sent directly to iptables.

>
>> Due to the large amount of work required to fix it relative to the
>> apparent demand for a fix, it has remained unchanged.
> I'm wondering if it really takes a lot of work.  I think that by just
> changing the order of the rules everything gets fixed.  If we group the
> rules *by functionality* instead of *by virtual-network* we can
> accomplish a particular goal (drop communication between
> virtual-networks or allow them):

Sure, that's simple if you're going to start/stop all virtual networks
together as a group. It's more complicated if you want each network to
operate independently of the other (i.e. t obe able to start/stop each
network without affecting the others). Possibly the way to do that would
be to create separate chains for the allow and block. You're welcome to
write a patch for it :-)

>
> (Notice that I did not insert or delete any rule; just changed the order):
>
> - Allow communication between virtual-networks (regardless of direction):
> http://fpaste.org/31729/
>
> - Block communication between virtual-networks (except for the LAN):
> http://fpaste.org/31731/
>
>> Note that if you want to have multiple virtual networks that can
>> communicate with each other, you can define all the networks as <forward
>> mode='route'/> (which gives them iptables rulesets that allow all access
>> in both directions), then add in appropriate "blanket" NAT rules
>> yourself in the host's iptables config.
> Right, that's what I'm using now: just had to add a static route to my
> home router in order for them to be able to use the net.

Yes, that's another option, for those that have control over the routing
tables of their network.

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