At Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:17:29 +0100,
Jiri Denemark wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 15:49:22 +0100, Claudio Bley wrote:
> > At Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:58:28 +0100,
> > Jiri Denemark wrote:
> > > > +
> > > > +tt, pre {
> > > > + font-family: "Ubuntu Monospace", "Consolas", "Lucida Console", monospace;
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > Do not do this. Default font-family for tt/pre is just good enough. If
> > > you don't like it, change your desktop/browser settings.
> >
> > I beg to differ. I tried 4 Browsers on 2 OSes, and it looked bad to me
> > in all of them using the default user agent settings.
> >
> > IMO, the 80% font-size is too small to look any decent using the user
> > agent font settings for tt / pre elements. It's hardly readable! (bad
> > with Firefox on Fedora, worse with Webkit on Windows)
>
> The problem is that it's all totally subjective. For me the default is
> just fine and it looks ugly with your style (and luckily I don't have
> Ubuntu Monospace so that it is not as bad as it could be). The important
> thing is that the default can be easily overridden while your proposed
> change can be hardly overridden. One would either need to provide it's
> own CSS style and force the browser to use it (which usually makes
> things worse) or tell fontconfig to replace Ubuntu Monospace with
> something different.
Instead of arguing about this nuance, I'll propose a new patch
shortly.
I'm going to remove the font-family setting. But I'll try to fix the
tt issue. Let's see would you think.
> > But removing the 80% font-size setting looks ugly, too.
> >
> > Any way, if there was only a single browser with bad defaults,
> > wouldn't it make sense trying to fix this for better user experience
> > instead of telling all users to change their settings (on every single
> > system they use)?
>
> We haven't received any single complaint about this so I doubt all users
> need to change anything.
Nobody complaint about the documentation having no visible breaks,
being just a long slew of words clutched together. Even Eric admitted
that he wanted that for a long time. Sometimes users are capable of
suffering beyond bearing...
Maybe we should conduct a poll on the user list?
> > OK, I'll reduce the line-height. It had to be that large for the
> > underline decoration of links. But see below.
>
> I don't think it needs to be changed at all when underline decoration is
> removed.
For me, it's easier to read, YMMV.
> > Here's a follow-up patch:
>
> It's definitely better than before but I still think we should leave
> more things at their defaults.
I'll try.
Claudio
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