Re: udevadm settle can take too long

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Osier Yang wrote:
> On 2012年04月24日 03:47, Guido Günther wrote:
> >Hi,
> >On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 02:41:54PM -0400, Jim Paris wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>http://bugs.debian.org/663931 is a bug I'm hitting, where virt-manager
> >>times out on the initial connection to libvirt.
> >
> >I reassigned the bug back to libvirt. I still wonder what triggers this
> >though for some users but not for others?
> >Cheers,
> >  -- Guido
> >
> >>
> >>The basic problem is that, while checking storage volumes,
> >>virt-manager causes libvirt to call "udevadm settle".  There's an
> >>interaction where libvirt's earlier use of network namespaces (to probe
> >>LXC features) had caused some uevents to be sent that get filtered out
> >>before they reach udev.  This confuses "udevadm settle" a bit, and so
> >>it sits there waiting for a 2-3 minute built-in timeout before returning.
> >>Eventually libvirtd prints:
> >>   2012-04-22 18:22:18.678+0000: 30503: warning : virKeepAliveTimer:182 : No response from client 0x7feec4003630 after 5 keepalive messages in 30 seconds
> >>and virt-manager prints:
> >>   2012-04-22 18:22:18.931+0000: 30647: warning : virKeepAliveSend:128 : Failed to send keepalive response to client 0x25004e0
> >>and the connection gets dropped.
> >>
> >>One workaround could be to specify a shorter timeout when doing the
> >>settle.  The patch appended below allows virt-manager to work,
> >>although the connection still has to wait for the 10 second timeout
> >>before it succeeds.  I don't know what a better solution would be,
> >>though.  It seems the udevadm behavior might not be considered a bug
> >>from the udev/kernel point of view:
> >>   https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/22/60
> >>
> >>I'm using Linux 3.2.14 with libvirt 0.9.11.  You can trigger the
> >>udevadm issue using a program I posted at the Debian bug report link
> >>above.
> >>
> >>-jim
> >>
> >>> From 17e5b9ebab76acb0d711e8bc308023372fbc4180 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >>From: Jim Paris<jim@xxxxxxxx>
> >>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:35:47 -0400
> >>Subject: [PATCH] shorten udevadmin settle timeout
> >>
> >>Otherwise, udevadmin settle can take so long that connections from
> >>e.g. virt-manager will get closed.
> >>---
> >>  src/util/util.c |    4 ++--
> >>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>
> >>diff --git a/src/util/util.c b/src/util/util.c
> >>index 6e041d6..dfe458e 100644
> >>--- a/src/util/util.c
> >>+++ b/src/util/util.c
> >>@@ -2593,9 +2593,9 @@ virFileFindMountPoint(const char *type ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED)
> >>  void virFileWaitForDevices(void)
> >>  {
> >>  # ifdef UDEVADM
> >>-    const char *const settleprog[] = { UDEVADM, "settle", NULL };
> >>+    const char *const settleprog[] = { UDEVADM, "settle", "--timeout", "10", NULL };
> 
> Though I don't have a good idea to fix it either, I guess this
> change could cause "lvremove" to fail again for the udev race.
> 
> See BZs:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702260
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570359

It seems that those bugs were caused by something like
 
1. open(lv, O_RDWR)
2. close(lv)
3. system("lvremove ...")

where udev would fire off a command between 2 and 3 that caused 3 to
fail.  Adding "udevadm settle" as step 2.5 is a good way to wait for
that command to finish, but:

- it doesn't necessarily fix the issue; something could easily re-open
  the device between 2.5 and 3 and cause the same failure.

- the race condition sounds like it was a short window, and sometimes
  the original sequence would still work even without the settle.
  That would suggest to me that a timeout of 10s is still plenty long.

A few thoughts:

- For lvremove: can we try a short timeout (3 seconds), then if the
  lvremove still fails, try again with the default udevadm timeout
  (120 seconds)?

- Even in that case, we need to fix libvirtd to not kill the
  connection after 30 seconds when it's libvirtd's fault that the
  connection is blocked for so long anyway.

- When connecting with virt-manager, is the udevadm settle really
  necessary?  We're not calling lvremove.

Thanks,
-jim

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