On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 09:15:18 -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > On 04/13/2012 08:46 AM, Jiri Denemark wrote: > > I guess I wasn't paying enough attention somewhere but why do we forbid block > > copy for persistent domains? I understand why we want to forbid certain > > operations when block copy is active but I don't see a reason for penalizing > > persistent domains. > > It was in patch 8/18 where I added the restrictions, and hopefully > documented in that commit message why limiting things to transient is a > good first step: > > 1. the first client of live migration is oVirt, which uses transient domains > > 2. qemu does not (yet) provide a way to resume a mirror when restarting > a domain, so anything that would require restoring a domain from saved > state is broken: incoming migration, virsh restore, and virsh start > after a managed save. But users would be upset if they saved a domain, > only to find out that they cannot then restore it, so I squelched things > one step earlier in the process, by preventing any save of a domain so > that we never have a broken save image in the first place. > > My worry now comes from the fact that managedsave is on the list of > forbidden operations. If a domain is transient, managedsave is already > forbidden (it is assumed that you either don't care about the domain if > the host dies, or that you are running a higher-level app like oVirt > that knows how to rebuild the guest on a different host). But if a > guest is persistent, and you use the libvirt-guests init script, then Yeah, this was the part I didn't see. Failing manually issued commands is fine but failing managedsave called from libvirt-guests during host shutdown/reboot is not nice. I agree with forbidding block copy for persistent domains then. Jirka -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list