Re: [PATCH 0/3] Enable automatic kill of running guests

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On 06/23/2011 07:11 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
On 06/23/2011 07:03 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:52:47AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
On 06/23/2011 04:58 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
I am building an application which uses KVM to run specific tasks, rather
than as a general purpose guest OS. I want to ensure that when the app
exits, the guest goes away too. To enable this, this series introduces
the concept of 'autokill', whereby a guest is forcably destroyed when
the virConnectPtr that launched it closes. This also lets us fix a long
standing problem with migration leaving an unkillable guest

Cool!

How does this interact with migration?  If a domain is currently marked
autokill on the source, should that mean that attempts to migrate it are
forbidden (since the connection to the source would end up being useless
after the migration, at which point the connection is gone and autokill
should kick in)?

That's a good point. I reckon we should forbid migration and save/restore
for such guests.

save/restore might work, if you keep the connection alive in the
meantime; but seeing as how save is basically a form of migration (to a
file rather than to another host), it's probably easier to just forbid
that as well, and state that an autokill guest is one-shot.

And another thought - it might be nice to expose the qemu -snapshot
option, which creates a throwaway run of a guest (where all the disks
are snapshotted prior to running any guest code, then when qemu exits
the state rolled back to that snapshot).  Seems like a new flag could
easily expose this feature, and that it would either imply autokill or
often be used with autokill.

Oops. As implemented, the documentation states that autodestroy domains cannot be saved, but the qemu code allows that, while instead enforcing that autodestroy domains cannot be suspended (paused). I think we botched that. And while fixing it, I'm going to also make autodestroy domains reject use with snapshots (another use of the one-shot principle - save/restore is a special case of snapshot/revert).

(Can you tell that I revisited this email because it mentions qemu -snapshot, and then started thinking about the ramifications with my recent snapshot work? :)

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