On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:10:04AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:46:14AM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On 01/10/11 18:19, Cole Robinson wrote: > > >In QEMU, the card itself is a PCI device, but it requires > > >-device hda-output in order to actually get sound to the host. AIUI this > > >is just HDA configuration and does not require stable addressing, so > > >is not presently represented in the XML. > > > > It isn't that simple. There are actually multiple devices involved. > > Each audio codec (yes, there can be multiple of these, up to 15) is > > connected via HDA Link to the pci controller. Each audio codec has > > a codec address (HDA bus property: cad=[0..14]). > > > > So you can specify "-device intel-hda -device hda-duplex -device > > hda-output" and the guest has multiple audio devices. Win7 even > > handles this correctly, whereas alsa uses only the first codec it > > finds (lowest codec address). Not that this buys you much today, > > qemu mixes all channels together before sending them off to the > > hosts sound system, i.e. you don't see a stream per sound card in > > pulseaudio. That might change in the future though. > > > > So 'intel-hda' should really be considered as a controller, > and hda-output' & 'hda-duplex' are the things to be treated > as devices in the guest config. > > This suggests a setup more like the one we did for virtio-serial > where we'd invent a new address type for codecs, and have XML > looking something like > > <controller type='hda' model='ich6'> > <address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x0a' function='0x0'/> > </controller> > <sound model='hda-output'> > <address type='hda' codec='0'/> > </sound> > <sound model='hda-duplex'> > <address type='hda' codec='1'/> > </sound> > > Are there any technical model names for 'hda-output' 'hda-duplex' > we need to be aware of (as we potentially have ich6, ich7, 8, 9, > etc for intel-hda in the future) > > > We also might see more hda codecs in the future. Maybe to pass > > through digital audio interfaces from the host? Not investigated > > yet in detail though. > > > > The HDA Links are even hot-pluggable (new audio codec can be linked > > up when putting the laptop into the docking station for example), > > although the qemu emulation doesn't support that today. > > Hotplug is another good reason for us to treat the 'hda-output' > and 'hda-duplex' objects as the <sound> device in libvirt XML, > because then we can add/remove them via virDomainAttachDevice > which we couldn't otherwise do One further alternative is to explicitly list codecs under the <sound> element eg <sound model='ich6'> <codec name='output' slot=0/> <codec name='duplex' slot=3/> <address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x0a' function='0x0'/> </sound> We could use virDomainAttachDevice/DetachDevice to hotplug an entire ich6 device, and virDomainUpdateDevice to hotplug individual codecs within the device. This might be a slightly nicer option for applications, so it would more closely mesh with what the guest OS actually sees as its device(s). Daniel -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list