On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:44:57PM +1100, Justin Clift wrote: > On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > <snip> > > I don't think virtual machine is suitable for virsh, because that implies > > full machine virtualization. libvirt/virsh can also be used for containers > > / OS virtualization. Domain/Guest are the only ones that really cover both > > possible usages. > > From the technical point of view, yeah. But, terminology for virtualisation seems > to have moved on to such a point that "Virtual Machine" is now a generic term > for any kind of virtualisation tech. The fact that it's "not a full machine" virtualisation > is largely moot. The different ways we support are just "different approaches" to > virtual machines (sic). I don't really agree with this. People using OpenVZ or LXC are simply not refering to their guests as virtual machines because it makes no sense as a term in this context. > It's kind of like the conversation the other day about virtual switches. There's more > than one type around the place (Linux bridging, the openvswitch guys, etc). But, > for the purpose of writing and communicating about them, we can just look at them > as all being types of "virtual switches", albeit with different approaches and > different properties. > > Same thing here. "Virtual Machine" is just the generic term now, and is very > widely understood. No, not really. This is a completely different scenario. You haven't got two fundamentally different concepts here, this is just a Xen vs KVM vs VMWare scenario where you've just got different impls of the same concept. > So, I still reckon we should go ahead with this. :) I don't agree. Regards, Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://deltacloud.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :| -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list