On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 8:08 AM Greg Sword <gregsword0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 12:33 PM Jinpu Wang <jinpu.wang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 4:43 AM Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Peter Xu [mailto:peterx@xxxxxxxxxx] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 PM > > > > > > > Exactly, not so compelling, as I did it first only on servers > > > > > > > widely used for production in our data center. The network > > > > > > > adapters are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries NetXtreme > > > > > > > BCM5720 2-port Gigabit Ethernet PCIe > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm... I definitely thinks Jinpu's Mellanox ConnectX-6 looks more > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/CAMGffEn-DKpMZ4tA71MJYdyemg0Zda15 > > > > > > wVAqk81vXtKzx-LfJQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate a lot for everyone helping on the testings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > InfiniBand controller: Mellanox Technologies MT27800 Family > > > > > > > [ConnectX-5] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which doesn't meet our purpose. I can choose RDMA or TCP for VM > > > > > > > migration. RDMA traffic is through InfiniBand and TCP through > > > > > > > Ethernet on these two hosts. One is standby while the other is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I'll try on a server with more recent Ethernet and InfiniBand > > > > > > > network adapters. One of them has: > > > > > > > BCM57414 NetXtreme-E 10Gb/25Gb RDMA Ethernet Controller (rev 01) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The comparison between RDMA and TCP on the same NIC could make > > > > > > > more > > > > > > sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks to me NICs are powerful now, but again as I mentioned I > > > > > > don't think it's a reason we need to deprecate rdma, especially if > > > > > > QEMU's rdma migration has the chance to be refactored using rsocket. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone who started looking into that direction? Would it > > > > > > make sense we start some PoC now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My team has finished the PoC refactoring which works well. > > > > > > > > > > Progress: > > > > > 1. Implement io/channel-rdma.c, > > > > > 2. Add unit test tests/unit/test-io-channel-rdma.c and verifying it > > > > > is successful, 3. Remove the original code from migration/rdma.c, 4. > > > > > Rewrite the rdma_start_outgoing_migration and > > > > > rdma_start_incoming_migration logic, 5. Remove all rdma_xxx functions > > > > > from migration/ram.c. (to prevent RDMA live migration from polluting the > > > > core logic of live migration), 6. The soft-RoCE implemented by software is > > > > used to test the RDMA live migration. It's successful. > > > > > > > > > > We will be submit the patchset later. > > > > > > > > That's great news, thank you! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Peter Xu > > > > > > For rdma programming, the current mainstream implementation is to use rdma_cm to establish a connection, and then use verbs to transmit data. > > > > > > rdma_cm and ibverbs create two FDs respectively. The two FDs have different responsibilities. rdma_cm fd is used to notify connection establishment events, > > > and verbs fd is used to notify new CQEs. When poll/epoll monitoring is directly performed on the rdma_cm fd, only a pollin event can be monitored, which means > > > that an rdma_cm event occurs. When the verbs fd is directly polled/epolled, only the pollin event can be listened, which indicates that a new CQE is generated. > > > > > > Rsocket is a sub-module attached to the rdma_cm library and provides rdma calls that are completely similar to socket interfaces. However, this library returns > > > only the rdma_cm fd for listening to link setup-related events and does not expose the verbs fd (readable and writable events for listening to data). Only the rpoll > > > interface provided by the RSocket can be used to listen to related events. However, QEMU uses the ppoll interface to listen to the rdma_cm fd (gotten by raccept API). > > > And cannot listen to the verbs fd event. Only some hacking methods can be used to address this problem. > > > > > > Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks. > > +cc linux-rdma > > Why include rdma community? rdma community has a lot people with experience in rdma/rsocket? > > > +cc Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Gonglei > >