Re: [PATCH-for-9.1 v2 2/3] migration: Remove RDMA protocol handling

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On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 4:43 AM Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Xu [mailto:peterx@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 PM
> > > > > Exactly, not so compelling, as I did it first only on servers
> > > > > widely used for production in our data center. The network
> > > > > adapters are
> > > > >
> > > > > Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries NetXtreme
> > > > > BCM5720 2-port Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... I definitely thinks Jinpu's Mellanox ConnectX-6 looks more
> > reasonable.
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/CAMGffEn-DKpMZ4tA71MJYdyemg0Zda15
> > > > wVAqk81vXtKzx-LfJQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> > > >
> > > > Appreciate a lot for everyone helping on the testings.
> > > >
> > > > > InfiniBand controller: Mellanox Technologies MT27800 Family
> > > > > [ConnectX-5]
> > > > >
> > > > > which doesn't meet our purpose. I can choose RDMA or TCP for VM
> > > > > migration. RDMA traffic is through InfiniBand and TCP through
> > > > > Ethernet on these two hosts. One is standby while the other is active.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I'll try on a server with more recent Ethernet and InfiniBand
> > > > > network adapters. One of them has:
> > > > > BCM57414 NetXtreme-E 10Gb/25Gb RDMA Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
> > > > >
> > > > > The comparison between RDMA and TCP on the same NIC could make
> > > > > more
> > > > sense.
> > > >
> > > > It looks to me NICs are powerful now, but again as I mentioned I
> > > > don't think it's a reason we need to deprecate rdma, especially if
> > > > QEMU's rdma migration has the chance to be refactored using rsocket.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyone who started looking into that direction?  Would it
> > > > make sense we start some PoC now?
> > > >
> > >
> > > My team has finished the PoC refactoring which works well.
> > >
> > > Progress:
> > > 1.  Implement io/channel-rdma.c,
> > > 2.  Add unit test tests/unit/test-io-channel-rdma.c and verifying it
> > > is successful, 3.  Remove the original code from migration/rdma.c, 4.
> > > Rewrite the rdma_start_outgoing_migration and
> > > rdma_start_incoming_migration logic, 5.  Remove all rdma_xxx functions
> > > from migration/ram.c. (to prevent RDMA live migration from polluting the
> > core logic of live migration), 6.  The soft-RoCE implemented by software is
> > used to test the RDMA live migration. It's successful.
> > >
> > > We will be submit the patchset later.
> >
> > That's great news, thank you!
> >
> > --
> > Peter Xu
>
> For rdma programming, the current mainstream implementation is to use rdma_cm to establish a connection, and then use verbs to transmit data.
>
> rdma_cm and ibverbs create two FDs respectively. The two FDs have different responsibilities. rdma_cm fd is used to notify connection establishment events,
> and verbs fd is used to notify new CQEs. When poll/epoll monitoring is directly performed on the rdma_cm fd, only a pollin event can be monitored, which means
> that an rdma_cm event occurs. When the verbs fd is directly polled/epolled, only the pollin event can be listened, which indicates that a new CQE is generated.
>
> Rsocket is a sub-module attached to the rdma_cm library and provides rdma calls that are completely similar to socket interfaces. However, this library returns
> only the rdma_cm fd for listening to link setup-related events and does not expose the verbs fd (readable and writable events for listening to data). Only the rpoll
> interface provided by the RSocket can be used to listen to related events. However, QEMU uses the ppoll interface to listen to the rdma_cm fd (gotten by raccept API).
> And cannot listen to the verbs fd event. Only some hacking methods can be used to address this problem.
>
> Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks.
+cc linux-rdma
+cc Sean



>
>
> Regards,
> -Gonglei




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