Re: [PATCH v3 00/30] qapi/qom: QAPIfy --object and object-add

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Kevin Wolf <kwolf@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Am 13.03.2021 um 14:40 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
>> Markus Armbruster <armbru@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 
>> > Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> >
>> >> On 11/03/21 15:08, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >>>> I would rather keep the OptsVisitor here.  Do the same check for JSON
>> >>>> syntax that you have in qobject_input_visitor_new_str, and whenever
>> >>>> you need to walk all -object arguments, use something like this:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      typedef struct ObjectArgument {
>> >>>>          const char *id;
>> >>>>          QDict *json;    /* or NULL for QemuOpts */
>> >>>>          QSIMPLEQ_ENTRY(ObjectArgument) next;
>> >>>>      }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I already had patches in my queue to store -object in a GSList of
>> >>>> dictionaries, changing it to use the above is easy enough.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I think I'd prefer following -display's precedence.  See my reply to
>> >>> Kevin for details.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I got independently to the same conclusion and posted patches
>> >> for that.  I was scared that visit_type_ObjectOptions was too much for 
>> >> OptsVisitor but it seems to work...
>> >
>> > We have reason to be scared.  I'll try to cover this in my review.
>> 
>> The opts visitor has serious limitations.  From its header:
>> 
>>  * The Opts input visitor does not implement support for visiting QAPI
>>  * alternates, numbers (other than integers), null, or arbitrary
>>  * QTypes.  It also requires a non-null list argument to
>>  * visit_start_list().
>> 
>> This is retro-documentation for hairy code.  I don't trust it.  Commit
>> eb7ee2cbeb "qapi: introduce OptsVisitor" hints at additional
>> restrictions:
>> 
>>     The type tree in the schema, corresponding to an option with a
>>     discriminator, must have the following structure:
>>     
>>       struct
>>         scalar member for non-discriminated optarg 1 [*]
>>         list for repeating non-discriminated optarg 2 [*]
>>           wrapper struct
>>             single scalar member
>>         union
>>           struct for discriminator case 1
>>             scalar member for optarg 3 [*]
>>             list for repeating optarg 4 [*]
>>               wrapper struct
>>                 single scalar member
>>             scalar member for optarg 5 [*]
>>           struct for discriminator case 2
>>             ...
>
> Is this a long-winded way of saying that it has to be flat, except that
> it allows lists, i.e. there must be no nested objects on the "wire"?

I think so.

> The difference between structs and unions, and different branches inside
> the union isn't visible for the visitor anyway.

Yes, only the code using the visitor deals with that.

>>     The "type" optarg name is fixed for the discriminator role. Its schema
>>     representation is "union of structures", and each discriminator value must
>>     correspond to a member name in the union.
>>     
>>     If the option takes no "type" descriminator, then the type subtree rooted
>>     at the union must be absent from the schema (including the union itself).
>>     
>>     Optarg values can be of scalar types str / bool / integers / size.
>> 
>> Unsupported visits are treated as programming error.  Which is a nice
>> way to say "they crash".
>
> The OptsVisitor never seems to crash explicitly by calling something
> like abort().
>
> It may crash because of missing callbacks that are called without a NULL
> check, like v->type_null.

Correct.

>                           This case should probably be fixed in
> qapi/qapi-visit-core.c to do the check and simply return an error.

I retro-documented what I inherited: qapi-visit-core.c code expects the
visitors to implement the full visitor-impl.h interface, but some
visitors don't.  So I documented "method must be set to visit FOOs" in
visitor-impl.h, and for the visitors that don't, I documented "can't
visit FOOs".

If the crashing behavior we've always had gets in the way, there are two
ways to change it:

1. Complicate qapi-visit-core.c slightly to cope with incomplete visitor
   implementations.

2. Complete the visitor implementations: add dummy callbacks that fail.

I prefer 2., because I feel it keeps the visitor-impl.h interface
simpler, and puts the extra complications where they belong.

> Any other cases?

I don't think so.

>> Before this series, we use it for -object as follows.
>> 
>> user_creatable_add_opts() massages the QemuOpts into a QDict containing
>> just the properties, then calls user_creatable_add_type() with the opts
>> visitor wrapped around the QemuOpts, and the QDict.
>> 
>> user_creatable_add_type() performs a virtual visit.  The outermost
>> object it visits itself.  Then it visits members one by one by calling
>> object_property_set().  It uses the QDict as a list of members to visit.
>> 
>> As long as the object_property_set() only visit scalars other than
>> floating-point numbers, we safely stay with the opts visitors'
>> limitations.
>
> Minor addition: This visits inside object_property_set() are
> non-virtual, of course.

Yes.

>> After this series, we use the opts visitor to convert the option
>> argument to a ObjectOption.  This is a non-virtual visit.  We then
>> convert the ObjectOption to a QDict, and call user_creatable_add_type()
>> with the QObject input visitor wrapped around the QDict, and the QDict.
>> 
>> Here's the difference in opts visitor use: before the patch, we visit
>> exactly the members in the optarg that actually name QOM properties (for
>> the ones that don't, object_property_set() fails without visiting
>> anything).  Afterwards, we visit the members of ObjectOption, i.e.
>> all QOM properties, by construction of ObjectOption.
>> 
>> As long as ObjectOption's construction is correct, the series does not
>> add new visits, i.e. we're no worse off than before.
>> 
>> However, there is now a new way to mess things up: you can change (a
>> branch of union) ObjectOption in a way that pushes it beyond the opts
>> visitors limitations.  QMP and tools --object will continue to work, but
>> qemu-system-FOO -object will crash.
>
> I don't think this is very concerning because the primary way to test
> changes to objects is probably -object in the system emulator. So I
> think we're lucky enough to have the problem in the most obvious place.
>
>> As is, HMP object_add doesn't crash, because it doesn't use the opts
>> visitor anymore, which breaks backward compatibility.  If we rever to
>> the opts visitor there, it'll crash as well.
>> 
>> New ways to mess things up are always kind of unwelcome.  This one
>> doesn't sound *too* dangerous; we "only" have to ensure -object is
>> tested thoroughly.  Still, comments next to the QAPI definitions that
>> must not be messed up would be nice.
>> 
>> Paolo, Kevin, any comments?
>
> We probably agree that using QemuOpts and the OptsVisitor is only a
> stopgap solution for 6.0 anyway. Instead of investing a lot of thought
> into how we can make this maintainable for the long term (which isn't
> something we want to do anyway), let's put that work into making the
> keyval visitor work for the system emulator.

Yes, we want to retire the opts visitor.

Aside: and I dislike the string visitors, too.




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