Re: [libvirt PATCH v3 00/21] Add support for persistent mediated devices

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 11:33:08 +0100
Erik Skultety <eskultet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 09:48:11AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 10:45:43AM +0100, Erik Skultety wrote:  
> > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 09:42:32AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé
> > > wrote:  
> > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 05:34:36PM -0600, Jonathon Jongsma
> > > > wrote:  
> > > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 17:43:54 +0100
> > > > > Erik Skultety <eskultet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > > > > Tested with v6.10.0-283-g1948d4e61e.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1.Can define/start/destroy mdev device successfully;
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2.'virsh nodedev-list' has no '--active' option, which is
> > > > > > > inconsistent with the description in the patch:
> > > > > > > # virsh nodedev-list --active
> > > > > > > error: command 'nodedev-list' doesn't support option
> > > > > > > --active
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3.virsh client hang when trying to destroy a mdev device
> > > > > > > which is using by a vm, and after that all 'virsh nodev*'
> > > > > > > cmds will hang. If restarting llibvirtd after that,
> > > > > > > libvirtd will hang.    
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It hangs because underneath a write to the 'remove' sysfs
> > > > > > attribute is now blocking for some reason and since we're
> > > > > > relying on mdevctl to do it for us, hence "it hangs". I'm
> > > > > > not trying to make an excuse, it's plain wrong. I'd love to
> > > > > > rely on such a basic functionality, but it looks like we'll
> > > > > > have to go with a extremely ugly workaround and try to get
> > > > > > the list of active domains from the nodedev driver and see
> > > > > > whether any of them has the device assigned before we try
> > > > > > to destroy the mdev via the nodedev driver.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, I've been trying to figure out a way to do this, but as
> > > > > far as I know, there's no way to get a list of active domains
> > > > > from within the nodedev driver, and I can't think of any
> > > > > better ways to handle it. Any ideas?  
> > > > 
> > > > Correct, the nodedev driver isn't permitted to talk to any of
> > > > the virt drivers.  
> > > 
> > > Oh, not even via secondary connection? What makes nodedev so
> > > special, since we can open a secondary connection from e.g. the
> > > storage driver?  
> > 
> > It is technically possible, but it should never be done, because it
> > introduces a bi-directional dependancy between the daemons which
> > introduces the danger of deadlocking them. None of the secondary
> > drivers should connect to the hypervisor drivers.
> >   
> > > > Is there anything in sysfs which reports whether the device is
> > > > in use ?  
> > > 
> > > Nothing that I know of, the way it used to work was that you
> > > tried to write to sysfs and kernel returned a write error with
> > > "device in use" or something like that, but that has changed
> > > since :(.  
> 
> Without having tried this and since mdevctl is just a Bash script,
> can we bypass mdevctl on destroys a little bit by constructing the
> path to the sysfs attribute ourselves and perform a non-blocking
> write of zero bytes to see if we get an error? If so, we'll skip
> mdevctl and report an error. If we don't, we'll invoke mdevctl to
> remove the device in order to remain consistent. Would that be an
> acceptable workaround (provided it would work)?

As far as I can tell, this doesn't work. According to my
tests, attempting to write zero bytes to $(mdev_sysfs_path)/remove
doesn't result in an error if the mdev is in use by a vm. It just
"successfully" writes zero bytes. Adding Alex to cc in case he has an
idea for a workaround here.

Jonathon




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