Re: [PATCH] test_driver: implement virDomainSendProcessSignal

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On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:52 AM Erik Skultety <eskultet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:59:11PM +0200, Ilias Stamatis wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:07 AM Erik Skultety <eskultet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 02:20:22PM +0200, Ilias Stamatis wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:20 AM Erik Skultety <eskultet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 03:17:43PM +0200, Ilias Stamatis wrote:
> > > > > > Only succeed when @pid_value is 1, since according to the docs this is
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do we need to restrict ourselves for @pid 1 in the test driver? This
> > > > > restriction exists in LXC for a reason, but why in test driver?
> > > > > a) it's only a check with @pid not being actually used
> > > > > b) each guest OS will have their own limit in /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max for the
> > > > > max number of PID so restricting it from the top doesn't make sense
> > > > > c) -@pid is used for process groups, so again, this will be handled within the
> > > > > guest OS in reality
> > > >
> > > > To my understanding if there's no process with such pid in the guest,
> > > > this API will fail. If we succeed for any pid, that would mean that
> > > > the test domain has 2^8 processes running and I wasn't sure if we
> > > > wanted that. But yes, as I wrote as a "comment" in the initial patch
> > > > this could as well make sense within test driver's scope so it's fine
> > > > to remove the check.
> > >
> > > Well, 2^8 isn't that bad is it? That's realistic, but long long is 64bit, so
> > > 2^63-1 that's a lot of PIDs, so you're right, it would feel weird, on the
> > > other hand, looking at it from the perspective of an app developer, requiring
> > > pid==1 is restrictive, if you allow any pid, you give them flexibility - PID
> > > being filled from a dynamic data structure, so eventually, they're just simply
> > > switch test driver for the real API, but that is my perspective, I don't want
> > > to force it to upstream, we can wait for another opinion, one can say that if
> > > they want to test with dynamic PIDs, use the real API.
> > >
> > > Erik
> >
> > Of course I meant 2^64, but I had 8 bytes in my mind so I got confused.
> >
> > This scenario you describe makes sense, even though currently only the
> > LXC driver implements this API.
>
> Yes, and I sincerely doubt any other hypervisor would ever implement this since
> this should completely in the guest OS' scope, e.g. in case of QEMU, most likely
> qemu-guest-agent would have to be involved, which means that good old ssh will
> work just as nicely + you'd more probably want to terminate services by their
> name rather than pid (and even more probably you want to terminate service
> units, not individual pids).
>
> >
> > So in conclusion I would say that the possible options are a) only
> > succeed for pid 1 b) succeed for ANY pid c) succeed for any pid up to
> > a pid_limit.
>
> a) using this for test driver is okay, because it doesn't do anything, but then
> again, from logical POV, it doesn't make any sense to me, init ignores/masks
> almost all the signals, even if it didn't, the user most likely just panicked
> the guest's kernel, great, virDomainDestroy would have served much better here.
>
> b) phrdina complained that we lose the error path if we succeed for every PID
> and that's true, but gives more flexibility
>
> c) I guess I'd personally prefer this one, but what should the arbitrary limit
>    be? (e.g. for < 1024 and succeed otherwise, dunno...)
>
> Whichever option we choose, we need to clarify it very clearly in the
> documentation, so I'll leave the choice to you as long as there's a doc string
> documenting the behaviour of the API in v2.
>
> Erik

I'm up for option c with 1024 as a limit. Tbh, I think the specific
limit value is not super important neither we should spend much more
time thinking about it.

So I'll send a new patch with 1024 as the limit and an update of the docs.

Ilias

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