* Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > The QEMU QMP service is based on JSON which is nice because that is a > widely supported "standard" data format..... > > ....except QEMU's implementation (and indeed most impls) are not strictly > standards compliant. > > Specifically the problem is around representing 64-bit integers, whether > signed or unsigned. > > The JSON standard declares that largest integer is 2^53-1 and the > likewise the smallest is -(2^53-1): > > http://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/6.0/index.html#sec-number.max_safe_integer > > A crazy limit inherited from its javascript origins IIUC. Ewwww. > QEMU, and indeed many applications, want to handle 64-bit integers. > The C JSON library impls have traditionally mapped integers to the > data type 'long long int' which gives a min/max of -(2^63) / 2^63-1. > > QEMU however /really/ needs 64-bit unsigned integers, ie a max 2^64-1. > > Libvirt has historically used the YAJL library which uses 'long long int' > and thus can't officially go beyond 2^63-1 values. Fortunately it lets > libvirt get at the raw json string, so libvirt can re-parse the value > to get an 'unsigned long long'. > > We recently tried to switch to Jansson because YAJL has a dead upstream > for many years and countless unanswered bugs & patches. Unfortunately we > forgot about this need for 2^64-1 max, and Jansson also uses 'long long int' > and raises a fatal parse error for unsigned 64-bit values above 2^63-1. It > also provides no backdoor for libvirt todo its own integer parsing. Thus > we had to abort our switch to jansson as it broke parsing QEMU's JSON: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1614569 > > Other JSON libraries we've investigated have similar problems. I imagine > the same may well be true of non-C based JOSN impls, though I've not > investigated in any detail. > > Essentially libvirt is stuck with either using the dead YAJL library > forever, or writing its own JSON parser (most likely copying QEMU's > JSON code into libvirt's git). > > This feels like a very unappealing situation to be in as not being > able to use a JSON library of our choice is loosing one of the key > benefits of using a standard data format. > > Thus I'd like to see a solution to this to allow QMP to be reliably > consumed by any JSON library that exists. > > I can think of some options: > > 1. Encode unsigned 64-bit integers as signed 64-bit integers. > > This follows the example that most C libraries map JSON ints > to 'long long int'. This is still relying on undefined > behaviour as apps don't need to support > 2^53-1. > > Apps would need to cast back to 'unsigned long long' for > those QMP fields they know are supposed to be unsigned. > > > 2. Encode all 64-bit integers as a pair of 32-bit integers. > > This is fully compliant with the JSON spec as each half > is fully within the declared limits. App has to split or > assemble the 2 pieces from/to a signed/unsigned 64-bit > int as needed. > > > 3. Encode all 64-bit integers as strings > > The application has todo all parsing/formatting client > side. > > > None of these changes are backwards compatible, so I doubt we could make > the change transparently in QMP. Instead we would have to have a > QMP greeting message capability where the client can request enablement > of the enhanced integer handling. > > Any of the three options above would likely work for libvirt, but I > would have a slight preference for either 2 or 3, so that we become > 100% standards compliant. My preference would be 3 with the strings defined as being %x lower case hex formated with a 0x prefix and no longer than 18 characters ("0x" + 16 nybbles). Zero padding allowed but not required. It's readable and unambiguous when dealing with addresses; I don't want to have to start decoding (2) by hand when debugging. Dave > Regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > -- Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@xxxxxxxxxx / Manchester, UK -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list