On 12.12.2018 16:28, John Ferlan wrote:
>
>
> On 12/12/18 3:04 AM, Nikolay Shirokovskiy wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11.12.2018 17:33, John Ferlan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/11/18 2:34 AM, Nikolay Shirokovskiy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11.12.2018 01:05, John Ferlan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> $SUBJ:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'storage sources'
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/12/18 7:58 AM, Nikolay Shirokovskiy wrote:
>>>>>> Every time we call all domain stats for inactive domain with
>>>>>> unavailable source we get error message in logs. It's a bit noisy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there ones in particular?
>>>>
>>>> Like this one:
>>>>
>>>> qemuOpenFileAs:3324 : Failed to open file '/path/to/optinal/disk': No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>
>>> So this is the one that perhaps is bothersome to the degree of we're
>>> ignoring that it doesn't exist, but then again the domain is not active,
>>> so does it really matter.
>>>
>>
>> I would prefer not to see false positive messages in logs if it is possible.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> While it's arguable whether we need such message or not for mandatory
>>>>>> disks we would like not to see messages for optional disks. Let's
>>>>>
>>>>> Filtering for the 'startupPolicy = optional' for domain stats (with
>>>>> empty/unavailable local source) would seem to be a "new use" perhaps not
>>>>> totally in line with the original intention.
>>>>
>>>> But I was not going to change behaviour only to stop polluting
>>>> logs with messages like above.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your solution requires that someone has modified their definition to
>>> include that startupPolicy='optional' attribute. I can be persuaded that
>>> this is desirable; however, it would be nice to get Peter's opinion on
>>> this especially since he knows the code and "rules" for backing stores
>>> better than I do. IOW: From a storage backing chain perspective does it
>>> make sense to use that.
>>
>> Not presicely, rather if someone already has optional disk then why logging
>> this kind of errors.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> filter at least for cases of local files. Fixing other cases would
>>>>>> require passing flag down the stack to .backendInit of storage
>>>>>> which is ugly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I remember chasing down into backendInit (virStorageFileInitAs)
>>>>> from qemuDomainStorageOpenStat for
>>>>>
>>>>> virStorageFileBackendForType:145 : internal error: missing storage
>>>>> backend for 'none' storage
>>>>> virStorageFileBackendForType:141 : internal error: missing storage
>>>>> backend for network files using iscsi protocol
>>>>>
>>>>> where the 'none' comes from a volume using a storage pool of iSCSI
>>>>> disks. I chased for a bit, but yes it got messy fast.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stats for active domain are fine because we either drop disks
>>>>>> with unavailable sources or clean source which is handled
>>>>>> by virStorageSourceIsEmpty in qemuDomainGetStatsOneBlockFallback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have these logs for successful stats since 25aa7035d which
>>>>>> in turn fixes 596a13713 which added substantial stats for offline
>>>>>> disks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Shirokovskiy <nshirokovskiy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> src/qemu/qemu_driver.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>> src/qemu/qemu_process.c | 9 +++++++++
>>>>>> src/qemu/qemu_process.h | 2 ++
>>>>>> 3 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>>> index a52e249..72e4cfe 100644
>>>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>>> @@ -20290,6 +20290,11 @@ qemuDomainGetStatsBlockExportDisk(virDomainDiskDefPtr disk,
>>>>>> const char *backendstoragealias;
>>>>>> int ret = -1;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + if (!virDomainObjIsActive(dom) &&
>>>>>> + qemuProcessMissingLocalOptionalDisk(disk))
>>>>>> + return qemuDomainGetStatsBlockExportHeader(disk, disk->src, *recordnr,
>>>>>> + records, nrecords);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> From my quick read this part would seem reasonable since the *Frontend
>>>>> and *Backend wouldn't have valid data and *GetStatsOneBlock is fetching
>>>>> source sizing data which for an empty source would be unobtainable.
>>>>>
>>>>>> for (n = disk->src; virStorageSourceIsBacking(n); n = n->backingStore) {
>>>>>> if (blockdev) {
>>>>>> frontendalias = QEMU_DOMAIN_DISK_PRIVATE(disk)->qomName;
>>>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_process.c b/src/qemu/qemu_process.c
>>>>>> index 9cf9718..802274e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_process.c
>>>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_process.c
>>>>>> @@ -6070,6 +6070,15 @@ qemuProcessPrepareSEVGuestInput(virDomainObjPtr vm)
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +bool
>>>>>> +qemuProcessMissingLocalOptionalDisk(virDomainDiskDefPtr disk)
>>>>>
>>>>> Curious why you chose qemu_process and not qemu_domain or even
>>>>> virstoragefile? This has nothing to do with whether the qemu process is
>>>>> running or not.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, we have nothing qemu specific here. Just not sure is this useful
>>>> for other purpuses or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since your chosen filter is "domain startup policy", I think qemu_domain
>>> is where it belongs.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + return disk->startupPolicy == VIR_DOMAIN_STARTUP_POLICY_OPTIONAL &&
>>>>>
>>>>> While I agree in principle about optional disks; however, since
>>>>> startupPolicy is optional it would seem this particular check is chasing
>>>>> a very specific condition. Would it be reasonable to use a flag instead?
>>>>> Something passed on the command line to essentially say to only collect
>>>>> the name/format the name of the local empty sources.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure I understand you. This patch does not change anything in respect
>>>> to collected stats so I can not see why we need extra flags.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To be clear, I'm not advocating some new domain attribute/flag here.
>>>
>>> The flag idea is something provided to virConnectGetAllDomainStats (or
>>> of course virDomainListGetStats) rather than using startupPolicy. IOW,
>>> some new VIR_CONNECT_GET_ALL_DOMAINS_STATS* flag.
>>>
>>> Just "odd" that using the startupPolicy flag to avoid stats collection
>>> for inactive guests and in the next patch for backing chains. Perhaps
>>> something worth adding to the startupPolicy description if this is the
>>> option taken.
>>> >>
>>
>> I agree that it is odd in case of stats collection but not in the second
>> case because there we check startupPolicy flag during startup which
>> corresponds to flag's name and meaning.
>>
>> As to stats collection here we have discrepancy between name and usage.
>> On the other hand optional policy makes disk kind of optional asset for domain so
>> having screaming error messages in logs every several seconds is odd too.
>> If this patch will be accepted it may make sense to introduce alias for
>> for startupPolicy, something like 'presense' having in mind it already
>> affects not only startup but migration/restore/revert.
>>
>
> The qemuProcessMissingLocalOptionalDisk needs to at least move to
> qemu_domain and be renamed in a v2.
>
> Noting in the description of startupPolicy in formatdomain.html.in that
> collection of detailed disk stats for inactive guests when the path is
> missing is something that I would think would be nice/good.
Ok
>
> w/r/t Dan's comment about logging level using info vs error - could be a
> challenge to do that given that you don't necessarily want to be carting
> that around - although I suppose in the case where we know we're
> "throwing away" an error (e.g. such as reset last error would do), we
> could fetch that error and generate a VIR_INFO from it leaving it up to
> the use to decide how chatty they'd like to have things.
With current approach this is difficult to archive. In both patches we skip
code that can generate error. However I can add explicit INFO message
that disk is skipped. Is this ok?
Nikolay
>
> John
>
>
>> Nikolay
>>
>>>>> That way we're not reusing something that has other uses. Although I'm
>>>>> open to other opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> + virStorageSourceIsLocalStorage(disk->src) && disk->src->path &&
>>>>>
>>>>> Use virStorageSourceIsEmpty instead.
>>>>
>>>> But this is a bit different, say I use !virStorageSourceIsEmpty(src) instead of the line
>>>> above, then I can not sure disk->src->path even makes sense in the below check.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, right the !virStorageSourceIsLocalStorage && src->path would pass...
>>> Cannot mistake virStorageSourceIsEmpty for (non existent)
>>> virStorageLocalSourceIsEmpty
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> + !virFileExists(disk->src->path);
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And while I believe I understand why you chose this, it would seem to me
>>>>> that it might be useful to know if an optional local disk had a path
>>>>> disappear. IOW: If all the other conditions are met, I'd like to know
>>>>> that the source path is missing. That might be a good thing to know if
>>>>> I'm getting stats for a domain. Maybe that's just me.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, its arguable. But as getting stats is periodic with rather high
>>>> frequency seeing such log error over and over again in logs can be
>>>> tedious.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Playing devil's advocate for a moment - what if someone didn't know the
>>> $path to that backing store was missing? By at least logging somewhere
>>> (but not fatal), the awareness can be made. By filtering the message if
>>> the unrelated in name startupPolicy was set to optional, this knowledge
>>> could be missed.
>>>
>>> The concept of filtering is fine to me - the concern is really the usage
>>> of the essentially unrelated startupPolicy to do so is what gives me
>>> pause for concern. If there are others that are OK with this, it's not a
>>> deal breaker for me.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: I fixed a bug in the domstats path recently where the "last error"
>>>>> was lost (see commit e1fc7ec08). Although I don't think that's what
>>>>> you're chasing here.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, it's different case.
>>>>
>>>> Nikolay
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> static int
>>>>>> qemuProcessPrepareHostStorage(virQEMUDriverPtr driver,
>>>>>> virDomainObjPtr vm,
>>>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_process.h b/src/qemu/qemu_process.h
>>>>>> index 2037467..52d396d 100644
>>>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_process.h
>>>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_process.h
>>>>>> @@ -214,4 +214,6 @@ int qemuProcessStartManagedPRDaemon(virDomainObjPtr vm);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void qemuProcessKillManagedPRDaemon(virDomainObjPtr vm);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +bool qemuProcessMissingLocalOptionalDisk(virDomainDiskDefPtr disk);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> #endif /* __QEMU_PROCESS_H__ */
>>>>>>
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