On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:50:56AM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:05:59 +0000
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 09:38:31PM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > Many of the current virtio-*-pci device types actually represent
> > > 3 different types of devices:
> > > * virtio 1.0 non-transitional devices
> > > * virtio 1.0 transitional devices
> > > * virtio 0.9 ("legacy device" in virtio 1.0 terminology)
> > >
> > > That would be just an annoyance if it didn't break our device/bus
> > > compatibility QMP interfaces. With this multi-purpose device
> > > type, there's no way to tell management software that
> > > transitional devices and legacy devices require a Conventional
> > > PCI bus.
> > >
> > > The multi-purpose device types would also prevent us from telling
> > > management software what's the PCI vendor/device ID for them,
> > > because their PCI IDs change at runtime depending on the bus
> > > where they were plugged.
> > >
> > > This patch adds separate device types for each of those virtio
> > > device flavors:
> > >
> > > - virtio-*-pci: the existing multi-purpose device types
> > > - Configurable using `disable-legacy` and `disable-modern`
> > > properties
> > > - Legacy driver support is automatically enabled/disabled
> > > depending on the bus where it is plugged
> > > - Supports Conventional PCI and PCI Express buses
> > > (but Conventional PCI is incompatible with
> > > disable-legacy=off)
> > > - Changes PCI vendor/device IDs at runtime
> > > - virtio-*-pci-transitional: virtio-1.0 device supporting legacy drivers
>
> It's a virtio-1 (not 1.0) device. Otherwise, I like this terminology
> better.
>
> > > - Supports Conventional PCI buses only, because
> > > it has a PIO BAR
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that this is basically identical
> > to virtio-*-pci, aside from only being valid for PCI
> > buses ?
> >
> > IOW, libvirt can expose this device even if QEMU does
> > not support it, by simply using the existing device
> > type and only ever placing it in a PCI bus ?
> >
> > If libvirt did this compatibility approach, can you
> > confirm this would be live migration state compatible.
> >
> > ie can live migrate virtio-*-pci -> virtio-*-pci-transitional,
> > provided only PCI bus was used.
>
> It also needs to make sure that neither disable-legacy nor
> disable-modern is set. Then this would have a compatible state AFAICS.
>
> >
> > > - virtio-*-pci-non-transitional: modern-only
> > > - Supports both Conventional PCI and PCI Express buses
> >
> > IIUC, libvirt can again provide compatibility with old
> > QEMU by simply using the existing device type and setting
> > disable-legacy ? Can you confirm this would be live
> > migration compatible
> >
> > virtio-*-pci + disable-legacy -> virtio-*pci-non-transitional
>
> I think yes.
This is exactly how it is implemented internally, but I'm not
promising that this will be kept compatible forever. And I
wouldn't like to make that promise unless there's an important
use case for that.
We could easily ensure it will be compatible in pc-4.0 and older,
though. Would that be enough for the use case we have in mind?
--
Eduardo
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