> From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:26 AM > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 13:54:27 +0800 > "Gao, Ping A" <ping.a.gao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 2017/7/28 0:00, Gao, Ping A wrote: > > > On 2017/7/27 0:43, Alex Williamson wrote: > > >> [cc +libvir-list] > > >> > > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 21:16:59 +0800 > > >> "Gao, Ping A" <ping.a.gao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >>> The vfio-mdev provide the capability to let different guest share the > > >>> same physical device through mediate sharing, as result it bring a > > >>> requirement about how to control the device sharing, we need a QoS > > >>> related interface for mdev to management virtual device resource. > > >>> > > >>> E.g. In practical use, vGPUs assigned to different quests almost has > > >>> different performance requirements, some guests may need higher > priority > > >>> for real time usage, some other may need more portion of the GPU > > >>> resource to get higher 3D performance, corresponding we can define > some > > >>> interfaces like weight/cap for overall budget control, priority for > > >>> single submission control. > > >>> > > >>> So I suggest to add some common attributes which are vendor agnostic > in > > >>> mdev core sysfs for QoS purpose. > > >> I think what you're asking for is just some standardization of a QoS > > >> attribute_group which a vendor can optionally include within the > > >> existing mdev_parent_ops.mdev_attr_groups. The mdev core will > > >> transparently enable this, but it really only provides the standard, > > >> all of the support code is left for the vendor. I'm fine with that, > > >> but of course the trouble with and sort of standardization is arriving > > >> at an agreed upon standard. Are there QoS knobs that are generic > > >> across any mdev device type? Are there others that are more specific > > >> to vGPU? Are there existing examples of this that we can steal their > > >> specification? > > > Yes, you are right, standardization QoS knobs are exactly what I wanted. > > > Only when it become a part of the mdev framework and libvirt, then QoS > > > such critical feature can be leveraged by cloud usage. HW vendor only > > > need to focus on the implementation of the corresponding QoS algorithm > > > in their back-end driver. > > > > > > Vfio-mdev framework provide the capability to share the device that lack > > > of HW virtualization support to guests, no matter the device type, > > > mediated sharing actually is a time sharing multiplex method, from this > > > point of view, QoS can be take as a generic way about how to control the > > > time assignment for virtual mdev device that occupy HW. As result we can > > > define QoS knob generic across any device type by this way. Even if HW > > > has build in with some kind of QoS support, I think it's not a problem > > > for back-end driver to convert mdev standard QoS definition to their > > > specification to reach the same performance expectation. Seems there > are > > > no examples for us to follow, we need define it from scratch. > > > > > > I proposal universal QoS control interfaces like below: > > > > > > Cap: The cap limits the maximum percentage of time a mdev device can > own > > > physical device. e.g. cap=60, means mdev device cannot take over 60% of > > > total physical resource. > > > > > > Weight: The weight define proportional control of the mdev device > > > resource between guests, it’s orthogonal with Cap, to target load > > > balancing. E.g. if guest 1 should take double mdev device resource > > > compare with guest 2, need set weight ratio to 2:1. > > > > > > Priority: The guest who has higher priority will get execution first, > > > target to some real time usage and speeding interactive response. > > > > > > Above QoS interfaces cover both overall budget control and single > > > submission control. I will sent out detail design later once get aligned. > > > > Hi Alex, > > Any comments about the interface mentioned above? > > Not really. > > Kirti, are there any QoS knobs that would be interesting > for NVIDIA devices? > > Implementing libvirt support at the same time might be an interesting > exercise if we don't have a second user in the kernel to validate > against. We could at least have two communities reviewing the feature > then. Thanks, > We planned to introduce new vdev types to indirectly validate some features (e.g. weight and cap) in our device model, which however will not exercise the to-be-proposed sysfs interface. yes, we can check/extend libvirt simultaneously to draw a whole picture of all required changes in the stack... Thanks Kevin -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
