On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:22:44 -0500 Michael Roth <mdroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Quoting Daniel P. Berrange (2017-06-29 03:33:19) > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:24:55PM -0500, Michael Roth wrote: > > > Hi everyone. Hoping to get some feedback on this approach, or some > > > alternatives proposed below, to the following issue: > > > > > > Currently libvirt immediately attempts to rebind a managed device back to the > > > host driver when it receives a DEVICE_DELETED event from QEMU. This is > > > problematic for 2 reasons: > > > > > > 1) If multiple devices from a group are attached to a guest, this can move > > > the group into a "non-viable" state where some devices are assigned to > > > the host and some to the guest. > > > > > > 2) When QEMU emits the DEVICE_DELETED event, there's still a "finalize" phase > > > where additional cleanup occurs. In most cases libvirt can ignore this > > > cleanup, but in the case of VFIO devices this is where closing of a VFIO > > > group FD occurs, and failing to wait before rebinding the device to the > > > host driver can result in unexpected behavior. In the case of powernv > > > hosts at least, this can lead to a host driver crashing due to the default > > > DMA windows not having been fully-restored yet. The window between this is > > > and the initial DEVICE_DELETED seems to be ~6 seconds in practice. We've > > > seen host dumps with Mellanox CX4 VFs being rebound to host driver during > > > this period (on powernv hosts). > > > > Why on earth does QEMU's device finalization take 6 seconds to complete. > > That feels very broken to me, unless QEMU is not being schedled due to > > host being overcomitted. If that's not the case, then we have a bug to > > investigate in QEMU to find out why cleanup is delayed so long. > > In this particular case QEMU starts finalization almost immediately > after the DEVICE_DELETED, but it looks like most of the time between that and > closing of the group FD is spent in the kernel. Here's what it looks > like from QEMU with vfio*/monitor* traces enabled (in this case > unplugging a Mellanox CX3 PF): > > # device_del called > ... > # vfio device's device_unparent() called: > # unrealize->exit->vfio_exitfn called: > 61948@1498759308.951038:vfio_intx_disable (0002:01:00.0) > 61948@1498759308.953657:vfio_region_exit Device 0002:01:00.0, region 0 > 61948@1498759308.954532:vfio_region_exit Device 0002:01:00.0, region 2 > # unrealize->exit->vfio_exitfn returns, DEVICE_DELETED sent: > 61948@1498759308.954633:monitor_protocol_event_queue event=9 data=0x3fff6c508690 rate=0 > 61948@1498759308.954669:monitor_protocol_event_emit event=9 data=0x3fff6c508690 > # last unref of vfio device, vfio_instance_finalize() called: > 61948@1498759308.955660:vfio_region_finalize Device 0002:01:00.0, region 0 > 61948@1498759308.955742:vfio_region_finalize Device 0002:01:00.0, region 2 > 61948@1498759308.955751:vfio_put_base_device close vdev->fd=30 > > # close(VFIODevice.fd) <- 5 SECOND DELAY > > 61948@1498759313.140515:vfio_put_base_device_completed close completed vdev->fd=30 > 61948@1498759313.181124:vfio_disconnect_container close container->fd=102 > 61948@1498759313.181152:vfio_put_group close group->fd=101 > # close(VFIOGroup.fd) > 61948@1498759313.181157:vfio_put_group_completed close completed group->fd=101 > # vfio_instance_finalize() returns > # vfio device's device_unparent() returns > > I poked around in the VFIO group close path and figured restoring ownership > of IOMMU to the host via vfio_iommu_driver_ops.release() (via > close(groupfd) was where all the time was spent, but didn't expect it to > be the close(VFIODevice.fd). Maybe Alexey/Alex have a better idea. I'll > look into it more as well. > > But suffice to say there's not much QEMU can do about the delay other > than moving deferring the DEVICE_DELETED event or adding a later-stage > event. The device close needs to do a device reset and attempt to restore the state of the device, plus whatever that EEH code is doing. I would have expected the group close to teardown the IOMMU, but maybe I'm forgetting some subtlety, in either case it's going to happen as part of the finalize and it's going to take some time. Thanks, Alex > > From libvirt's POV, we consider 'DEVICE_DELETED' as meaning both that the > > frontend has gone *and* the corresponding backend has gone. Aside from > > cleaning the VFIO group, we use this as a trigger for all other device > > related cleanup like SELinux labelling, cgroup device ACLs, etc. If the > > backend is not guaranteed to be closed in QEMU when this emit is emitted > > then either QEMU needs to delay the event until it is really cleaned up, > > or QEMU needs to add a further event to emit when the backend is clean. > > > > > > > Patches 1-4 address 1) by deferring rebinding of a hostdev to the host driver > > > until all the devices in the group have been detached, at which point all > > > the hostdevs are rebound as a group. Until that point, the devices are traced > > > by the drvManager's inactiveList in a similar manner to hostdevs that are > > > assigned to VFIO via the nodedev-detach interface. > > > > > > Patch 5 addresses 2) by adding an additional check that, when the last device > > > from a group is detached, polls /proc for open FDs referencing the VFIO group > > > path in /dev/vfio/<iommu_group> and waiting for the FD to be closed. If we > > > time out, we abandon rebinding the hostdevs back to the host. > > > > That is just gross - it is tieing libvirt to details of the QEMU internal > > implementation. I really don't think we should be doing that. So NACK to > > this from my POV. > > > > > There are a couple alternatives to Patch 5 that might be worth considering: > > > > > > a) Add a DEVICE_FINALIZED event to QEMU and wait for that instead of > > > DEVICE_DELETED. Paired with patches 1-4 this would let us drop patch 5 in > > > favor of minimal changes to libvirt's event handlers. > > > > > > The downsides are: > > > - that we'd incur some latency for all device-detach calls, but it's not > > > apparent to me whether this delay is significant for anything outside > > > of VFIO. > > > - there may be cases where finalization after DEVICE_DELETE/unparent are > > > is not guaranteed, and I'm not sure QOM would encourage such > > > expectations even if that's currently the case. > > > > > > b) Add a GROUP_DELETED event to VFIO's finalize callback. This is the most > > > direct solution. With this we could completely separate out the handling > > > of rebinding to host driver based on receival of this event. > > > > > > The downsides are: > > > - this would only work for newer versions of QEMU, though we could use > > > the poll-wait in patch 5 as a fallback. > > > - synchronizing sync/async device-detach threads with sync/async > > > handlers for this would be a bit hairy, but I have a WIP in progress > > > that seems *fairly reasonable* > > > > > > c) Take the approach in Patch 5, either as a precursor to implementing b) or > > > something else, or just sticking with that for now. > > > > > > d) ??? > > > > Fix DEVICE_DELETE so its only emitted when the backend associated with > > the device is fully cleaned up. > > Need to explore same concerns I had WRT to DEVICE_FINALIZED above, but > assuming those aren't an issue this would indeed makes things even > simpler. Will look into this more. > > Would patch 5 be out of the question even as a fallback for downlevel > QEMUs? Or is that scenario too unlikely to warrant it? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > -- > > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > > > -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
