On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:22:59AM +0200, Jiri Denemark wrote: > The big question is how to fix the regression in a backward compatible > way and still keep the ability to properly check guest CPU ABI with new > enough libvirt and QEMU. Clearly, we need to keep both the original and > the updated CPU definition (or one of them and a diff against the > other). > > I came up with the following options: > > 1. When migrating a domain, the domain XML would contain the original > CPU def while the updated one would be transferred in a migration > cookie. > - doesn't fix save/restore or snapshot revert > - could be fixed by not updating the CPU with QEMU < 2.9.0, but it > won't work when restore is done on a different host with older > QEMU (and yes, this happens in real life, e.g., with oVirt) > - doesn't even fix migration after save/restore or snapshot revert Yep, not an option. > > 2. Use migration cookie and change the save image format to contain > additional data (something like migration cookie) which a new libvirt > could make use of while old libvirt would ignore any additional data > it doesn't know about > - snapshot XML would need to be updated too, but that's trivial > - cleanly changing save image format requires its version to be > increased and old libvirt will just refuse to read such image > - this would fix save/restore on the same host or on a host with > older QEMU > - doesn't fix restore on a different host running older libvirt > - even this is done by oVirt The only way we can change save image format, is if we ensure we use the old format by default, and require a manual VIR_DOMAIN_SAVE_CPU_CHECK flag to turn on the "new" format. > 3. Use migration cookie and change the save image format without > increasing its version (and update snapshot XML) > - this fixes all cases > - technically possible by using one of the unused 32b ints and > adding \0 at the end of the domain XML followed by anothe XML with > the additional data (pointed to by the formerly unused uint32_t) > - very ugly hack While it seems ugly, this is kind of what the 'unused' ints are there for in the first place. Basically for required incompatible changes we'd bump version, but for safe opt-in changes we can just use an unused field. So I think this is ok > 4. Format both CPUs in domain XML by adding a new subelement in <cpu> > which would list all extra features disabled or enabled by QEMU > - fixes all cases without the need to use migration cookie, change > save image format, or snapshot XML > - but it may be very confusing for users and it would need to be > documented as "output only, don't touch staff" Yeah this just looks too ugly. > So my preferred solution is 2. It breaks restore on a host with older > libvirt, but it was never guaranteed to work, even though it usually > just worked. And we could just tell oVirt to fix there usage :-) Also > additional data in save image header may be very useful in the future; I > think I remember someone sighing about the inability to store more than > just domain XML in a saved image when they were trying to fix some > compatibility issues. I think 2 is ok, if we use the VIR_DOMAIN_SAVE_CPU_CHECK to opt-in to writing the new format with expanded CPU. It means OpenStack/oVirt would *not* use this flag by default - it would need to be an opt-in once the admin knows they don't have any nodes with older version in use. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
