Re: [PATCH 00/17] Redo website layout and branding

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On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 10:17:18AM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:41:41 +0000, Daniel Berrange wrote:
The current libvirt website design dates from 2008 and
has not changed significantly since. Compared to
contemporary open source project websites it looks
pretty dated and cluttered.

IMO dated is not that bad. Cluttered is the issue perhaps. Said this I
don't really like all the "modern" web pages, thus I'm biased.


True, you do, but you must also admit that this doesn't do most of the
bad stuff "modern" pages do.  You definitely know what I'm talking
about. ;)

[...]

The libvirt logo used a specific font with angled tops
to letters like "l", "b" and "t" - this is the "Overpass"
font, made available by Red Hat under an open source
font license. The re-branding makes use of webfont
support so that we can use this font across the entire
libvirt website for a consistent look.

The colors of the website CSS now exactly match the
colors used in the logo in most places.

+1

The bigger change is in the layout, with the huge
left hand sitemap nav bar being removed to give more
space to the main content. The front page now directly
links to the key pages that were shown to be highly
visited in the apache web logs. Most of the rest of
the links are now available from the "docs.html" page
linked from "Learn" in the top nav bar.

I'm not a fan of this despite having monitors in portrait mode and thus
finally having the whole width with content.

What bothers me is that for navigation you can't select a different
section without opening the menu page (either by going back, or by
clicking on the "learn".


This might be an issue, but the bigger one I see in this is that there
is no place on the front page (or anywhere rather) that says
"Documentation".  "Learn" is very misleading for me.

On the other hand I (and my favorities completion in my browser)
remember most of the pages I'm accessing, thus I'm not using the menu
anyways usually.

Another key change is that the download page now
covers all language bindings, test suites, docs
released by the project, not merely the core C
library.

Finally a new page "contribute.html" is added as the
source of information useful to people wishing to get
involved in the libvirt project.

View the new site here

https://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-new-website/

Note that the front page includes a feed of 4 most
recent blog posts, however, if visiting over https://
this will be blocked by browsers. In firefox you
can tell it to allow http:// content temporarily
at which point the feed will appear. I'll be doing
a proper fix by getting a TLS cert for virt-tools.org
website setup.

In this new design all the XML snippets and other stuff enclosed in
<code> in the source is not in a monospace font any more, which is
terrible.

Additionally I don't quite like sans-serif fonts for big blocks of
texts, but the old page was not better in this aspect. I'd be in favor
of changing to a serif font.


Serif is meant for paper, monitors should show Sans-Serif.  And I'm not
saying it just because I like it that way, but as it is supposed to be
like that.  Not all might like it, though.

Overall I don't disagree with this as long as the XML and code snippets
stay in a monospace font.

Peter




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