Re: Analysis of the effect of adding PCIe root ports

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On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 10:17 -0400, Laine Stump wrote:
> So here's a rewording of your description (with a couple additional 
> conditions) to see if I understand everything correctly:
> 
> 1) during initial domain definition:
> 
> A) If there are *no pci controllers at all* (not even a pci-root or 
> pcie-root) *and there are any unaddressed devices that need a PCI slot* 
> then auto-add enough controllers for the requested devices, *and* make 
> sure there are enough empty slots for "N" (do we stick with 4? or make 
> it 3?) devices to be added later without needing more controllers. (So, 
> if the domain has no PCI devices, we don't add anything extra, and also 
> if it only has PCI devices that already have addresses, then we also 
> don't add anything extra).
> 
> B) if there is at least one pci controller specified in the XML, and 
> there are any unused slots in the pci controllers in the provided XML, 
> then use them for the unaddressed devices. If there are more devices 
> that need an address at this time, also add controllers for them, but no 
> *extra* controllers.
> 
> (Note to Rich: libguestfs could avoid the extra controllers either by 
> adding a pci-root/pcie-root to the XML, or by manually addressing the 
> devices. The latter would actually be better, since it would avoid the 
> need for any pcie-root-ports).
> 
> 2) When adding a device to the persistent config (i.e. offline): if 
> there is an empty slot on a controller, use it. If not, add a controller 
> for that device *but no extra controllers*
> 
> 3) when adding a device to the guest machine (i.e. hotplug / online), if 
> there is an empty slot on a controller, use it. If not, then fail.
> 
> The differences I see from what (I think) you suggested are:
> 
> * if there aren't  any unaddressed pci devices (even if there are no 
> controllers in the config), then we also don't add any extra controllers 
> (although we will of course add the pci-root or pcie-root, to 
> acknowledge it is there).
> 
> * if another controller is needed for adding a device offline, it's okay 
> to add it.

So instead of guaranteeing that there will always be an empty
slot available for hotplug during a single start/destroy
cycle of the guest, we would be guaranteeing that there will
be 3/4 empty slots available for either hotplug or coldplug
throughout the entire life of the guest.

Sounds like a pretty good compromise to me.

The only problem I can think of is that there might be
management applications that add eg. a pcie-root in the XML
when first defining a guest, and after the change such guests
would get zero hotpluggable ports. Then again it's probably
okay to expect such management applications to add the
necessary number of pcie-root-ports themselves.

Maybe we could relax the wording on A) and ignore any
pci{,e}-root? Even though there is really no reason for
either a user or a management application to add them
explicitly when defining a guest, I feel like they might be
special enough to deserve an exception.

-- 
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization

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