Re: [PATCH] Drop hle feature for Haswell CPUs

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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 09:43:14AM +0100, Guido Günther wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:47:24PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:37:06PM +0100, Guido Günther wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:40:26PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 01:33:15PM +0100, Guido Günther wrote:
> > > > > The intel-microcode 3.20140913.1 update disables TSX-NI (transactional
> > > > > memory instructions). When a server running libvirt is rebooted with
> > > > > this update, libvirt no longer considers the machine to have a Haswell
> > > > > CPU:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  # virsh capabilities | grep -A1 '<arch>x86_64'
> > > > >     <arch>x86_64</arch>
> > > > >     <model>SandyBridge</model>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Since Intel disables the feature on their CPUs we shouldn't check for it
> > > > > as well to keep VMs using Haswell working.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This was debugged and reported by Chris Boot at
> > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/773189
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  src/cpu/cpu_map.xml | 1 -
> > > > >  1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/src/cpu/cpu_map.xml b/src/cpu/cpu_map.xml
> > > > > index bd9b056..f41dbce 100644
> > > > > --- a/src/cpu/cpu_map.xml
> > > > > +++ b/src/cpu/cpu_map.xml
> > > > > @@ -507,7 +507,6 @@
> > > > >        <feature name='movbe'/>
> > > > >        <feature name='fsgsbase'/>
> > > > >        <feature name='bmi1'/>
> > > > > -      <feature name='hle'/>
> > > > >        <feature name='avx2'/>
> > > > >        <feature name='smep'/>
> > > > >        <feature name='bmi2'/>
> > > > 
> > > > NACK.  We can not change existing models in cpu_map.xml because that
> > > > results in a guest ABI change.
> > > 
> > > But Intel changed the ABI as well by removing hle so what would we do
> > > to move forward? Introduce another model? This would still break
> > > systems with the microcode update.
> > 
> > Simply do nothing. There is no requirement that guest CPU model names
> > match the host CPU you are running on. A guest CPU model name is simply
> > a synonym for a collection of features. If libvirt reports 'SandyBridge'
> > for the host CPU model, when it is in fact 'Hasmere' that's not a serious
> > problem, because the key fact is that the feature bits are correctly
> > detected regardless of what name is reported.
> 
> But this means that VMs that have e.g.
> 
>   <cpu mode='custom' match='exact'>
>     <model fallback='forbid'>Haswell</model>
>     <vendor>Intel</vendor>
>     ...
>   </cpu>
> 
> refuse to start after the microcode upgrade like
> 
>   error: Failed to start domain foo
>   error: unsupported configuration: guest and host CPU are not compatible: Host CPU does not provide required features: hle
> 
> Following your argument this makes a lot of sense since the feature
> isn't in the set of supported features anymore.

In particular this ensures that the correct behaviour happens during
live migration. ie libvirt will refuse to migrate a guest from a
CPU without the microcode, over to a CPU with the microcode, since
that target host would not be able to support the features the guest
is running with.

>                                                  From a users
> perspective it's confusing since they have a Haswell CPU built in
> still. So should we define a Haswell2 cpu type without hle so users
> can select it in case they don't want to use 'host-model'?

I'd really recommend that they just copy the entire <cpu> block
out of the host capabilities XML into the guest XML if they want
to have a matching host CPU model.

There is some long term work going on to try and get CPU models
that can be versioned against machine types, so that we have a
way to fix these kind of messes in the future, without adding
many new CPUs with a suffix of '2'. This isn't the first mistake
we have in this area - there are quite a few others which already
exist with CPU models having the wrong features compared to the
physical silicon.

Regards,
Daniel
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