Gents: I finally got the networking figured out (had to add a couple more modules to satisfy libvirt_qemud). Here's a list of the modules I'm loading for virtualization - Does it look about right?: smoyernew images # lsmod Module Size Used by ipt_MASQUERADE 2176 1 iptable_nat 4228 1 nf_nat 9516 2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 7436 3 iptable_nat xt_state 1920 1 nf_conntrack 28040 5 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_state ipt_REJECT 3072 2 xt_tcpudp 2816 4 rtc 7216 1 iptable_filter 2048 1 ip_tables 7652 2 iptable_nat,iptable_filter x_tables 6660 6 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,xt_state,ipt_REJECT,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables bridge 29720 0 kqemu 119460 1 tun 5376 1 > What is the error ? Is there anything in /root/.virt-manager/virt-manager.log > after the crash. This hasn't solved the problem with virt-manager (and children) crashing when I click in a child window (just DSL for now). The error messages are a bit cleaner now that the networking issue if fixed (and I guess we know they're not related). Here's what shows up on the console: smoyernew images # virt-manager process 5225: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such file or directory See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this issue. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace Aborted and here's what's in the log file: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:14:11 WARNING No support for gnome-keyring Thu, 17 May 2007 15:14:11 ERROR Unable to connect to HAL to list network devi ces: '%s'dbus.DBusException org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to c onnect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 93, in detect_n etwork_devices self.bus = dbus.SystemBus() File "//usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 652, in __new__ private=private) File "//usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 293, in __new__ mainloop=mainloop) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to soc ket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory Thu, 17 May 2007 15:14:11 WARNING Unable to resolve local hostname for machine Thu, 17 May 2007 15:14:19 DEBUG Graphics console configured at vnc://127.0.0. 1:5900 Thu, 17 May 2007 15:14:19 DEBUG Graphics console configured at vnc://127.0.0. 1:5900 Since I don't have hal on this machine, I think I'll install it and then retry. Thanks again for all the help! smoyer -- Steven W. Moyer Principle Architect, Assurance Applications C-COR Solutions, LLC 60 Decibel Road State College, PA 16801 Office Phone: 814-231-4408 Front Desk: 814-238-2461 Cell Phone: 814-883-0391 Fax: 814-278-6540 E-mail: smoyer@xxxxxxxxx AIM: StevenWMoyer ICQ: 349680381 Jabber: smoyer1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: smoyer64 Yahoo: smoyer64