I've been thinking about the tricky issue of RPM upgrades and how they interact with the new networking stuff and don't think we've currently got quite the optimal setup. The current approach is that 'make install' puts a default.xml file into /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks and also symlinks that file into the autostart directory. So if someone builds from tar.gz and does make install they'll get a default network config installed & turned on out of the box. This is fine for tar.gz scenario. When we build an RPM we also include the default.xml file in the /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks directory, as well as the autostart symlink. So anyone installing the libvirt RPM gets the default network, whether they're doing an upgrade or fresh install. This is reasonable for the new install, or the first time you upgrade to a new neworking-enabled libvirt. If you subsequently delete the default network, or turn off autostarting, then along comes the next libvirt RPM update and autostart gets turned back on, and/or the default network recreated. This will be considered to be rather unpleasant by many people because no matter what they do, they will always be given a virbr0, a dnsmasq process and a bunch of extra iptables rules whether they want them or not. So I think we need to figure out a way to deploy a default network out of the box, but at the same time ensure that if the turn it off / delete it, upgrades won't re-introduce it. Ideally if someone upgrades from FC6 -> FC7 they will also get the default network created (once only). One way we can address this is to put the default.xml into the docs directory /usr/share/doc/libvirt-X.Y.Z (or perhaps stuff is into a dir like /usr/share/libvirt instead) and then have a RPM %post script which copies it into /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks. If we make the %post script conditional on '$1 == 1' then it will only be run for completely new libvirt installs. This doesn't address the upgrade question though - so someone updating from FC6 -> FC7 won't get the default network. Perhaps we shouldn't worry about them ? Dan. -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=|