[fedora-websites] #415: Fedora Cloud Images are very hard to find

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#415: Fedora Cloud Images are very hard to find
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  Reporter:  haypo    |      Owner:  webmaster
      Type:  defect   |     Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Milestone:
 Component:  General  |   Keywords:
Blocked By:           |   Blocking:
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 Hi,

 For an unknown reason, it is very hard to locate cloud images for the
 "regular Fedora", whereas it is very easy to locate "Atomic" images. But I
 don't want the container thing with "dnf: command not found". I would like
 a regular Fedora where I can install anything, trash my OS if I want to,
 etc. I would like to build a VM to develop on Python and run benchmarks,
 so I really want to avoid the indirection of a docket container.

 * To locate Fedora Cloud Image, I tried "fedora cloud image" in Google.
 * First result: "Cloud images - Fedora" with an URL containing
 "fedora.org", nice: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_images
 * Ah, it's a wiki page which only contains a redirection to
 http://cloud.fedoraproject.org/
 * http://cloud.fedoraproject.org/ is automatically redirected to
 https://getfedora.org/atomic/
 * https://getfedora.org/atomic/ is a dead end, there is no link to cloud
 images for the regular Fedora

 A colleague (I'm working for Red Hat, hello!) gave me the URL
 ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/25/CloudImages/x86_64/images/.
 Sadly, OpenStack failed to fetch the QCOW image using the FTP protocol. It
 worked using HTTP:
 http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/25/CloudImages/x86_64/images
 /Fedora-Cloud-Base-25-1.3.x86_64.qcow2

 But this image doesn't work :-( It fails somewhere in cloud-image. I
 should report this bug too.

 On #fedora, I was told to try a cloud image of Fedora 24, I got the link:
 http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/24/CloudImages/x86_64/images/

 Then another colleague, gave me a different link for Fedora 25:
 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/twoweek/Fedora-
 Atomic-25-20161216.0/compose/CloudImages/x86_64/images/Fedora-Cloud-
 Base-25-20161216.0.x86_64.qcow2

 This is a mess: why should I ask people for URLs on IRC? :-(

 Why now showing these images on the official Fedora website?

 Cloud is a thing nowadays, why not supporting cloud images more
 officially?

 The second colleague also pointed me to https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-
 websites/ticket/406#comment:1 which says that Atomic becomes the
 "default". IMO it's a bad idea to hide other cloud images, the user should
 have the choice of how Fedora is installed!

 Thank you for your nice website and your amazing operating system! Fedora
 works very well on my desktop and laptop PCs!

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