On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:41:41PM +0200, Robert Mayr wrote: > 2015-09-16 15:12 GMT+02:00 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > Matthew Miller pointed me at this bug: > > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263565> > > > > The OP had to drop back to a netinstall when he had a bad experience > > with the KDE spin. If there are some problems with a spin, certainly > > the responsible SIG can work on solving that. But in thinking about > > the reporter's comments about finding netinstall: perhaps it would > > make sense for the spin site to include an unobtrusive pointer to > > Workstation or Server netinstall ISO. This might be analogous to the > > Other Downloads section found on the Server and Workstation download > > pages. Thoughts? > > > Ok so this is a request which is not really consistent itself in my > opinion. The user who filed the bug wanted the KDE Spin, and he > followed the links from our main getfedora.org website to the > spin. That's pretty fine and it's what we want. Why should I want to > find a Workstation netinstall image when I'm on a KDE Spin webpage? > I think 99% of all users going to the Spins website don't want to > find any edition image, because they are specifically looking for a > Desktop Spin (or more even a functional spin when on labs.fp.o). Yes, the inconsistency is because there are not separate spin netinstalls. (And I'm not advocating creating them, since it's a marginal value at best.) > Finally, the Workstation WG itself didn't want to promote the > netinstall images at all, and we never had them on the website > during the whole F21 release cycle. Then the WG came up and said > they wanted to have the netinstall images for F22, but they > shouldn't be too prominent. There was a technical reason for the change, which was to make sure that Boxes works well for guest VM installation. However, the WG wanted to avoid diverting users to a netinstall "choose your own adventure" experience. The Websites team came up with a good solution here, I think. > Actually that's what we are showing there, and if you go the > Workstation download page you will also find easily the netinstall > images for both architectures. A netinstall image is kinda > specific, and most of the users won't download it, because its use > is trickier than a simple Live image. Therefore we also decided to > not add any descriptions about them, which could lead to > misunderstandings for new end users when going to get as much > informations about the default image as possible. My two cents > about the topic. I think you and I are in violent agreement. :-) In any case, I think Mo's solution might make sense. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- websites mailing list websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites