2014-08-24 21:53 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa <elad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Hello Websites and Desktop lists. > > I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the > default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox > about:home page as the default starting page for the browser. > > What do you think? Hi Elad, I'm happy you bring up this topic, as we are in the middle of re-designing most of our pages. And indeed start.fpo would be really different from what we are going to have, but I also think that start.fpo is doing a good job actually. > Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for > Fedora to encourage people to participate and contribute. But I'm not > sure if it really works. Me neither, but I know many people who use it as start page when they start their browser. > Reasons why I think it's time for this page to go: > > * We got numerous of complaints about inappropriate planet fedora > posts that appeared there. Having contributor-generated content in the > start page seems like a bad idea in hindsight. Most of the Planet > posts are also not very relevant (or inviting) for people who are not > already part of the community. +1 > * The design is a bit too simplistic, yet since the current design > was introduced nobody had the time/energy/will to think of / implement > anything better. To be frank, it's kinda ugly - and I think I'm > allowed to say this because I'm the one who implemented (and if I > recall correctly, also "designed" it). Yes, and it will be even more "ugly" considered the new web design. (I don't want to hurt you here) > * Our "main goal" used to be "gaining contributors" and getting > people involved with the project. While this goal still remains > intact, it's no longer our main driving force (at least for the > Wrokstation product), but rather "build the best OS for software > developers" - as such it would be better if the start page would be > actually *usable* for our target audience. Gaining contributors > remains a goal, but it shouldn't affect our UI/UX decisions. +1 > fwiw it's not the first time I've suggested the removal of this page. > > I want input on this from both Desktop and Websites before I file a > bug for the Firefox package to drop this default. > > Of course we will have to have start.fedoraproject.org online still > for at least another cycle, because people might still have it as > their homepage (I've seen a few, they don't really look at the page > and just go to the address bar directly). > > We could, for example, replace it with some sort of "contributor hub" > page with resources, workflows and practical guides on how to get > involved for new contributors (ie. reuse the start.fpo name, *not* use > a contributor hub as a homepage) but I don't know if anyone has the > time, energy and will to implement and maintain such thing. > -- > -Elad Alfassa. Well, I'm not really happy with fudcon.fpo and fcomm.fpo too, and am trying to find a good way to include these pages in the new wesite design. Contributor hubs is not the right way I think, but a sort of redesigned starting page would be cool. Actually we have http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora which will disappear, importing the informations into start.fpo redesigning the page as we are doing for the main fpo website would be a good solution IMHO. I'd say, let's not throw it away, but use it in a different way, targeting it a bit better as actually. Just my thoughts atm. -- Robert Mayr (robyduck) -- websites mailing list websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
