Re: dividing up the wiki?

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> 
> 
> I'd like to share my opinion:
> 
> "Fedora wiki is useless and being used in a wrong way"
> 
> When I first came into fp.o, I first met wiki. I think wiki is the place we
> can found knowledge like wikipedia, but then I found I was wrong. Fedora
> wiki has a lot of pages which are imported from MoinMoin, and most pages are
> out of date.
> 
> The most common things I can find are test results, seems Fedora uses wiki as
> a feedback collector. Team pages need love etc. So now when I search
> something about confusions, archlinux wiki first comes into my eyes, then
> Debian, even Gentoo. Wiki is a place for ideas sharing, but not a special
> place for testing.
> 
> Then I think doc.fp.o is the right place, but seems I'm wrong again. Doc only
> contains English page with 100% percent. Same page in another language is
> often unavailable. There are many people in China, they can't speak English
> well, reading such docs is also not easy. Same like many French and Spanish
> don't speak English, too.
> 
> IMO, Wiki should not be a test result collection, fortunately I heard that
> Fedora has started to develope a web app for this.
> 
> But we still need enhancement. For example New changes page, why should we
> use wiki to describe new changes, but not use a separate app to display the
> new changes with more helpful and beautiful information? Don't you think the
> theme using is ugly? Just like apps.fp.o/packages compares with pkgdb, which
> one do you think is better?

Wiki is now best tool we have - that's all. For Change description, it's great,
everything is available in one place etc. Using Wiki for process is bad idea, 
trust me, but currently the only way. At least tracking was moved to BZ, 
submissions are still tracked using categories (and guess what one typo means
for your Change). For Change description - the documentation of Change, I'd 
like to use Wiki and I think it's really valid use case, not for process...
I have bunch of scripts that helps me with that, one interesting idea from
Flock is trying to tweak Redmine in the same way KDE Project does instead
of trying to write a new tool. And that's definitely one thing I'd like to
try. 

Jaroslav 

> And FWN, a nearly abandoned project. We have magazine now, better than before
> but still needs improvement.
> 
> And many...
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