On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:38 PM, meine <trialero@xxxxxxx> wrote:
reducing start.fpo to the essential minimum a novice user might appreciate I very much like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Start.fpo-mockup-elad.png
Thank you.
+ not only an extended search field, but very useful options to search the package database (Fedora, can I do the things I want to do with it? how is it called?) and wiki (backgrounds)
Well, this is the tricky part, I'm not sure if we can implement this
without using _javascript_ or changing the way start.fpo is built to allow
us to do serverside magic. People disliked the idea of making this search bar using _javascript_ when I suggested it.
+ links to the user guide, ask.fedora and a place to join
-/+ the announcements Fedora weekly are rather techish, but a new Fedora user can also be a techie
I don't think anyone maintains Fedora Weekly News anymore, anyway announcements in the mockup just show the latest message from the "announce" mailing list feed.
the bears I don't know but they surely underline what is in the balloon above and they probably look beter than a rough drawn Tux.
Panadas are the unofficial Fedora mascot, that is to say, the web team and the design team are very fond of pandas.
novice users might have questions about what software to use. they simply don't know the names of open source alternatives. pointing to a website like www.osalt.com might help them converting.
A start page is not the place to handle such thing. If you are interested in helping users to migrate from other OSs, I'd suggest creating a special document for that in docs.fedoraproject.org, instead of cluttering the start page.
on the help-thing I'd suggest linking to ask fedora as well as to fedoraforum.org because this is an excellent place to get help and be treated with respect (in all 3 years with stupid questions I never got flamed). the only problem here is that fedoraforum.org is officially not affiliated with Fedora, but when no one has a problem with it...
We now link to ask.fedoraproject.org instead in our get-help page, no reason we'd link somewhere else in the start page
on the search engine on start.fpo I argumented some time ago to use DuckDuckGo instead because it doesn't track you and Google has some strangish policies regarding privacy and openness. not directly something Fedora stands for. on the other hand if Google lowers the threshold maybe we should skip politics...
This is actually a problem because duckduckgo is not fully opensource either. I don't think we want to endorse *any* 3rd party proprietary services in official Fedora pages
for further background reading and exploring Linux i'd suggest links to fedoraproject.org (you can get a new/different version) and www.linux.com because it has some good pages on software and support (http://www.linux.com/learn)
Again, out of the scope of the start page.
BFN
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