Re: Busted project email archives on fedorahosted.org :(

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Justin:

You may want to start a ticket with the infrastructure team:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/

... and make it super-high priority. I'm not sure who from infra is on
this list, but that is the fast way to get the attention of the sysadmins.

- - Karsten, hoping this is fixable ...

On 06/20/2012 05:52 AM, Justin Clift wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just discovered a serious problem with the fedorahosted.org email
> archives.
> 
> At least some of our (important) messages are missing large amounts
> of content.
> 
> For example, this important Aeolus Community email, which we want
> to direct people towards as reference:
> 
> https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/aeolus-devel/2012-June/010794.html
>
>  It's only *1 sentence* in your archives.  95% of it is missing.
> :(
> 
> The _full_ version of it is included below. (significantly longer)
> 
> How do we go about getting this fixed?  (and preferably making
> sure it doesn't happen again)
> 
> Regards and best wishes,
> 
> Justin Clift
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Dan Macpherson <dmacpher@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: ACA Side
>> Topic - Proposal: templates.aeolusproject.org Date: 8 June 2012
>> 2:47:30 PM AEST To: "aeolus-devel "
>> <aeolus-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I've been following the Aeolus Community Assessment conversation
>> and I though I might start a separate e-mail chain regarding an
>> idea I had instead of railroading the original conversation.
>> 
>> From what I saw of the original conversation, we're looking to
>> build our community and evangelize Aeolus' strengths.
>> 
>> It's also been questioned as whether we'd recommend using Aeolus
>> in it's current state in a production environment. This got me
>> thinking... there's a difference between what we'd recommend to
>> users, and what they'll actually do. By this, I mean that there
>> might be a boffin or two somewhere who could devise some unique
>> uses for Aeolus that we've never even thought of. And I think
>> that what some might consider Aeolus's biggest weakness (it's
>> still experimental) could end up being its biggest strength
>> (experimental is fun and exciting!).
>> 
>> My proposal -----------
>> 
>> We develop our own (for lack of a better word) "Apps Store" -- a
>> place when users can share Image and Deployable templates for
>> Aeolus, much along the same lines as addons.mozilla.org or
>> extensions.gnome.org. And following these subdomain conventions,
>> I suggest... templates.aeolusproject.org!
>> 
>> How it works ------------
>> 
>> A user writes an image template and deployable for a particular
>> application. For example, they might want to launch a base Drupal
>> installation in EC2 using Fedora as an OS. So they write an Image
>> Template that includes the relevant Apache and Postgres packages.
>> They also write a Deployable Template that installs and
>> configures Drupal (via Audrey) to an instance with httpd/db.
>> 
>> Then the user thinks, "Hey, I bet there are others out there who
>> want to install Drupal in the cloud. Maybe I should share these
>> templates with the world."
>> 
>> The user uploads the templates to templates.aeolusproject.org,
>> tags them as an Image Template and Deployable Template
>> respectively, and create an associates between the two (basically
>> a way of signifying a relationship between an image/deployable
>> pair that works well together).
>> 
>> So then, I want to create a Drupal site on a standalone instance
>> in my own RHEV environment.
>> 
>> I search templates.aeolusproject.org and find someone has already
>> created the templates I need. Perfect. (Plus I could substitute
>> the Image template for one with a different distro if I prefer).
>> 
>> I use both these template in Aeolus and install Drupal on EC2. It
>> works great!
>> 
>> I go back to templates.aeolusproject.org and give the template
>> author a 5-star rating. Great job, everything went better than
>> expected. Plus, the rating helps his Deployable Template becomes
>> TOTM (Template of the Month).
>> 
>> But I also leave a comment to say, "Hey, great templates, but I
>> think you should include a param in the deployable that allows a
>> user to input a comma-separated list of additional modules for
>> their Drupal installation." This way I'm helping improve the
>> content of templates.aeolusproject.org through feedback.
>> 
>> Benefits --------
>> 
>> templates.aeolusproject.org does a couple of cool things:
>> 
>> 1. Encourages people to join, contribute and collaborate to the
>> Aeolus community 2. Encourages people to experiment with Aeolus
>> and share their results 3. Helps new users wanting to learn more
>> about TDL/Deployable XML 4. Provides users with a library of
>> applications to launch into their cloud (and only needing two XML
>> files to do so) 5. Gives us a better idea of how people are using
>> Aeolus so that we can enhance the features they like and improve
>> the features they don't like
>> 
>> These are very rough ideas that I've come up with in a day, so
>> please forgive me if they seem a little ill-thought. Regardless,
>> I do think is an idea that can really enhance the Aeolus
>> Community and the project too. If anyone has an ideas,
>> suggestions, drawbacks or general comments, please share them.
>> 
>> Dan Macpherson Content Author Engineering Content Services Red
>> Hat Asia Pacific Pty Ltd Brisbane, Australia
>> 
>> e: dmacpher@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> -- Aeolus Community Manager http://www.aeolusproject.org
> 


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