Hey, It was suggested that i gather feedback on the 2 sites to see what users experience when they want to download fedora. Here is the feedback. (file is here incase the format is off: http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt) And i have anonymized all the feedback because some people asked that before i started to ask questions. The feedback below was gathered in a few irc rooms mostly #fedora and #web. hiemanshu helped me gathering some of the feedback below. Personal real world feedback is asked from 6 persons but not given since fedora would't even run on there stock notebooks! Feedback fedoraproject.org and get-fedora User 1 - fedora main site -- no issues, it's fine - get.fp.o -- KDE download is a bit hidden -- x64 is hidden. users suggestion: perhaps 2 download buttons: 'download x64' and 'download x32' -- user said: also add buttons for the dvd versions of tose 2 architectures -- Make the gnome-kde choosable like on the mandriva download page -- Ajax popup with download details (distribution, desktop environment, installation guide etc...) After showing the mandriva download style he said he only missed the architecture option User 2 - fedora main site -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention - get.fp.o -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention -- Spins, where do i need them for? remove it! User 3 - fedora main site -- 'looks oke' - get.fp.o -- More infor on spins rather then just one link -- keep it simple -- When asked for an x64 download link: "I don't think it should be there, as many people would download it, and it wouldn't work on their non x86_64 machines." User 4 - fedora main site -- "I've been able to find everything I need on the websites." - get.fp.o -- "I've been able to find everything I need on the websites." -- "no issues, it was pretty obvious it's the second big button" -- ""Trying to download x64"" well, it seems harder because I went to the list of mirrors instead of just instantly getting the download link -->also, when I got to the mirror list I had to click on a mirror and browse to where the iso files are for F11 -->we're talking 8-9 clicks at least instead of 1x -->for the 3rd or 4th most common download it would be nice if it were shorter, but not a big deal to me -->I'd like it if their was a link directly to the file you wanted on the mirror (if that is possible or even makes sense) -->but it would be possible for it to start me off in say /release/11/Fedora/x86_64 -->yeah, that would make sense for it to do that after I click on the filter for F11 x86_64 -->yep, that seems like it would be better instead of starting at the base User 5 - fedora main site -- seems OK, everything looks like its working, by preference I like a bit more of a banner on sites, but thats personal -- posibly more of a note that its based on the comercial Red Hat distro - get.fp.o -- seems fine to me User 6 - fedora main site -- if I'm new to linux and need help, do I click docs, wiki, get help, or what? -- too much unused white space - get.fp.o -- seems too cluttered -- leads me to wonder wtf I click on -- and it lacks consistancy -- if you have several options, display them in a consistent manner -->that page has a couple different options in the middle, other options in a different style on the right (well, i think they are different) and then other, alternat eoptions at the bottom -->could it not list all the options in one consistant list, explaining what each is, with the different download options? User 7 - fedora main site -- None - get.fp.o -- i guess download button could be bigger, but i noticed it immediately User 8 - fedora main site -- should have a big "download" button -- Well, i think user who wants to install something *NIX'y is pretty advanced to find a download link on the website - get.fp.o -- None User 9 - fedora main site -- and it should probably have a better link text -- I mean, imagine reading it; Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now INSTALLABLE LIVE CD! - get.fp.o -- only thing is the "download now" link might not be obvious as a link - Other -- one last thing; the layout breaks on a small viewport (4-500px wide) -- should have some minimal width limiter -- http://w-wins.com/images/brokenlayout.png Mixed from: UxerX and UserY (and others) -- the front-page of fedoraproject.org is a bit non-descript -- anonymous, if you will -- since this is mostly about getting people to use it, I'd go for a more "in your face" approach, have a direct download button on the front page, larger logo, more "THIS IS FEDORA" :) -- when the writing goes one word per line, things are bad -- no prominent logos, nothing -- i would have something similar to how firefox has theirs, short and sweet with a bit of kapow -- if i didn't know what fedora is i wouldn't immediately know what it was -- ONE sentence explaining that "This is the Linux distro for you" and a download button :) -- that little blurb needs to be more bolder or something -- stand out more -- I think part of the problem is that the lion image in the navigation dominates there, without communicating anything (alt text does not count) -- I just think if you want people to actually download it, then Download link needs to be the first thing that draws the eye -- change the lion-image with a download fedora 11 button -- http://www.getfirefox.com http://www.getsongbird.com >>> take them as example -- most people who visit your site won't want a tour. They want a download link. -- take a look at the get firefox page, i love what they have going on at the bottom, short snappy bits of information -- Make that big lion a download button, then have a tour button somewhere else -- Or maybe you could have two buttons in that area...top one is tour, bottom one is download -- Yeah - I think what the fedora-page need is a clear goal and plan for the page -- the ubuntu website does it well, take note of that -- is it a page mainly meant for getting Fedora? -- then emphasize that -- and make support, "what is" and all that other stuff less prominent -- and less than 50 words on the main front page blurb -- people are wanting immediate satisfaction nowadays -- they don't want to search for information -- they want a clear, concise text telling them what, why and where -- especially important for a website of this type -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list