19:59 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Who's here? 20:00 -!- rwmjones_ [n=rwmjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:01 < ivazquez> Pong. 20:01 < daMaestro> pong 20:01 -!- ezq [n=ezq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:02 -!- tw2113 [n=tw2113@fedora/tw2113] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:02 -!- mizmo [n=duffy@nat/redhat/x-f59a7193df533b33] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 < ricky> All right, tw2113 and mizmo are here as well :-) 20:03 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Tasks 20:03 < ricky> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Tasks 20:04 < ricky> Let's go through and clean up the tasks list a bit 20:04 < ricky> No updates on usability testing or CMS 20:04 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:04 * ricky takes /contact off the list, since it's done 20:05 -!- giarc [i=hidden-u@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:05 < ricky> tw2113: Should we leave docs.fp.o on there to track any remaining CSS tweaking, etc.? 20:05 < ricky> giarc: Hey 20:05 < ianweller> oh hi! 20:05 < ivazquez> spins.fp.o is in both lists. 20:05 < tw2113> i have kind of forgot that i agreed to do that 20:06 < tw2113> i'll take note to do it, but i don't think it needs to be on the tasks list 20:06 < tw2113> since it got pushed live already 20:06 < ianweller> i looked at docs.fp.o and list items aren't indented :( 20:06 < ianweller> so the table of contents is hard to read 20:06 < ricky> All right, I'll take that out too, then 20:07 < ricky> mizmo: Do you have anything on the myfedora entry? /me hasn't heard much about that recently 20:07 -!- DemonJes1er [n=DemonJes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "leaving" 20:07 < mizmo> ricky, j5 was building it out so there was apublic test instance 20:07 < mizmo> i was travelling last week though so i haven't talked to him in a few days so i dont know the status on that 20:07 < mizmo> last week i did fix a css bug in the lightbox code he has 20:07 < J5> ricky: https://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/community 20:08 < mizmo> yay 20:08 < J5> I'm currently recording a screencast and writing a release announcement for the beta 20:08 < ricky> Ah, cool, it's up on the publictest - that's great to see 20:08 -!- tc1415 [i=blewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:08 < SmootherFrOgZ> nice 20:09 < ricky> I guess I'll leave that on the list and we can try to look at it more after the release 20:09 < ricky> ianweller: Any upstream discussion about the MW redircects? 20:09 -!- petreu [n=peter@fedora/petreu] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:09 < ianweller> ricky: no i've been quite busy lately :( 20:10 < ianweller> if it were still summer i probably could've gotten that done but i don't see it getting done very fast at this rate ;) 20:10 * ricky understands - same here! 20:10 < ricky> No worries 20:10 -!- londo [n=georgiou@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 20:10 -!- londo [n=georgiou@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:10 < ricky> So updates relating to Infrastructure/Websites 20:10 < ianweller> if G or someone could help out on that that would be sweet. 20:11 < ricky> Yeah, he might be pretty busy with having been moving this while :-) 20:11 < ianweller> yeah 20:11 < ianweller> we're all busy :/ 20:12 < ricky> So we're looking to freeze the website right after the preview release 20:12 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 20:12 < ianweller> what still needs to be done for that? 20:12 < ricky> Can you remind me of what we need to get the counter images created? 20:12 < ianweller> oh 20:13 < ianweller> mizmo: do you have that script handy from last time? 20:13 < mizmo> ianweller, i think i mailed it to the list so it should be in the archives 20:13 < ianweller> k i'll look for it 20:13 < ianweller> i need a string for the english one, and then we can translate as necessary 20:13 < mizmo> ianweller, thanks :) 20:13 < ianweller> and do basically the same thing we did last time, i presume 20:14 < ianweller> ricky: you know morea bout getting it into the repo than i do 20:14 -!- smooge [n=smooge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "-ENOCAFFEINE" 20:14 < ricky> Yeah, I can handle getting it in once we have the images 20:14 < ianweller> i'll peek through the archives to refresh what we did last time in my head 20:16 -!- ezq [n=ezq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:16 < ricky> All right 20:16 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Websites - get-fedora 20:16 < ricky> So this is the total of what we have at the moment: http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora 20:17 < ricky> We still need side boxes for PPC, KDE 20:17 < ianweller> hmm i'm seeing a problem, let me do some things with a screenshot 20:19 < tw2113> ianweller, could you also get a screenshot of the lack of TOC indents? so i know where to focus? 20:20 < ricky> I'll start creating the KDE and PPC version of get-fedrora later this week 20:20 < ianweller> tw2113: yeah i'll do that in a sec 20:21 -!- EvilBob [n=EvilBob@fedora/pdpc.sustaining.BobJensen] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:21 < ianweller> ricky: who's writing content for sideboxes? is that you too? 20:21 < ricky> I haven't thought of what the string should be yet, actually 20:21 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Leaving" 20:22 < ricky> Any ideas? 20:22 < ianweller> well, just something explanatory 20:22 < ianweller> like 20:23 -!- J5 [n=quintice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Ex-Chat" 20:23 < ianweller> "If you prefer the K Desktop Environment (KDE) over Gnome, you may be interested in the Live KDE distribution of Fedora." or something like that. 20:23 < ianweller> something that tells the user directly what they need to do, without sounding biased towards one version or another 20:23 < ricky> mizmo: Did you have any vision for what the sideboxes would look like or say? 20:24 < mizmo> ricky, i was just thinking really quick one-liners 20:24 < mizmo> eg 20:24 < ianweller> same for ppc, "If you have an older Mac or a computer that runs on a PowerPC (PPC) processor, you will need a specific Fedora version for your architechture, such as blah blah blah." 20:24 < mizmo> 'KDE fans, go here!' 20:24 < ianweller> something simple, to the point 20:24 < mizmo> 'Need PPC? go here!' 20:24 < mizmo> with a KDE logo 20:24 < ianweller> mizmo: but does that /explain/ it? 20:24 < ianweller> doesn't explain ppc. a lot of people don't know what ppc is. 20:24 < mizmo> ianweller, i dont think the people who need either really need explanation as to why they need it 20:24 < ivazquez> Does that matter? 20:24 < mizmo> ianweller, thats why they arent on the front page 20:25 < giarc> the short one-liners seem best to me...KDE/PPC ... you know what you are looking for 20:25 < mizmo> eg audio snobs know where to get vinyl. i might look at the vinyl section of the record store kind of strangely and wonder why it is there, but it doesnt impede me from browsing the CDs 20:25 < ianweller> but what if you need ppc but you don't know the difference? 20:25 < mizmo> you could put an explanatory sentence at the top of each the kde and ppc page in case a newb clicks on the banner to figure out what it is 20:26 -!- petreu| [n=peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:26 < ianweller> mizmo: ok yeah that'll work. 20:26 < mizmo> ianweller, if you need ppc and dont know the difference you've got other problems we cant solve 20:26 < ianweller> +1 to explanatory sentence on page 20:26 < ricky> I guess it couldn't hurt to get the text for those thought out right now :-) 20:26 < mizmo> i just wouldnt clutter the front page with it is all 20:26 < mizmo> for the PPC page 20:27 < ianweller> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/screenshot.png 20:27 < ianweller> ok there's the screenshot i wanted to show 20:27 < ianweller> with my crappy circle drawn around the part i want to point out 20:27 < ianweller> having the fedora image floated left and the documentation box floated right leaves very little room for, um, text 20:27 < ianweller> in the middle 20:27 < ianweller> it just looks cluttered. messy. etc. 20:27 < ricky> Haha, looks like we need to size that entire column up or make it more fluid 20:28 < ianweller> i think you should clear: both; it 20:28 < ianweller> and possibly make the resources box a bit wider 20:28 < mizmo> "Below you may download a special version of Fedora for older Macintosh computers and other computers that have PowerPC (PPC) processors. If you do not have a machine with a PowerPC processor, you should go back to the main _get fedora_ page to download a version of Fedora that will work best for your computer." 20:28 < giarc> what ianweller just said ... move the text to below resources 20:28 < ricky> Gah, sorry - I have to move real quickly - will hopefully be back in a minute :-( 20:29 < ianweller> i have to go soon too 20:29 < mizmo> for KDE 20:30 < mizmo> "The _K Desktop Environment_ (KDE) is an alternative desktop environment for Fedora. It provides a different look and feel to the windows, menus, and general desktop behavior of Fedora. If you prefer the K Desktop Environment, you may download the KDE version of Fedora below." 20:30 * ianweller heads out, be back in about 20 minutes 20:30 -!- ianweller is now known as ianweller_afk 20:30 < ricky> See ya 20:33 * ricky gets back 20:34 < ricky> All right, so if ianweller_afk can get the counter ready sometime this week, I'll try to work out and CSS bugs/get the different version of get-fedora created for ppc and kde 20:34 < ricky> Should the "I know what I want" page be a sidebox as well? 20:35 -!- petreu| [n=peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:36 -!- alexxed [n=alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Leaving." 20:37 < mizmo> ricky, yeh probably 20:37 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|@d149-67-234-111.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit "Ex-Chat" 20:37 < ricky> All right, then I'll work on getting something complete-ish by the end of the week and try to run it by you then 20:37 < ricky> /look for images to add to my plain text :-) 20:38 < mizmo> cool 20:38 < mizmo> :) 20:38 < ricky> Anybody have anything else to discuss? 20:38 < mizmo> ricky, how does the code freeze tomorrow affect websites? 20:39 -!- ubertibbs [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 20:39 < ricky> I think that's rawhide, so it won't affect us at all 20:39 < mizmo> oh okay 20:39 < ricky> The website (the repo that's generating fp.o right now) will be frozen after the prerelease (the last few changes will probably be getting the counter in) 20:39 < ricky> Then we'll work on the fedora-web.test repo, which is what's showing on the publictest15 link 20:40 < ricky> Hopefully, translations will happen on that repo until we merge back to the main one 20:40 < ricky> So we're aiming to have everything string-wise ready by the 4th 20:42 < ricky> All right, looks like we have a plan, then :-) 20:42 < ricky> Thanks for coming, everybody
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