On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:06 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > ... stuff like that. > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt agree more!! > > > > > > what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being > > > seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if > > > those changes should be huge or small. > > > > > > i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, > > > and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it > > > seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at > > > this point of discussion. > > > > > > > Please find this in the list, and show us the patch you gave us. I take > > comments like these very very seriously. If you sent us stuff and it just > > went down the tube, thats bad. If you said "I've got an idea" and it was > > ignored, thats because idea's != change. > > > > -Mike > > > > > It was a discussion about the same issues we were discussing here. I > wrote a script to parse some rss news from different sites, and played a > bit with m??ir??n's designs to create what you can see in this link -> > http://juankprada.livejournal.com/4805.html (now that i look back to > that post i see you were one of the people who liked what i did, Mike). > If you really want the comments on the list i could only find this link > (i didnt really search) > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-February/msg00034.html > > I talked to ricky about that idea and we both agreed that it would be > good to make the changes but it would be better to wait till some > changes on the infrastructure (im still not sure i understood what he > said) so i keep waiting (thats why im in a rush for stop talking and > start working). > > So this all goes to the starting point in which i said we lack of > leadership. If somebody has an idea that could make a change then who > decide if it is ok or not?... we are not even voting for such things and > so we comment about those ideas here on the ml and some people dislike > the idea and then thats all for it. Even if lots of people support your > idea, when two or three dislike it then nothing is done. > > Now quaid is/was working on something similar and i support him as i > would really like such features to appear on the website, and im pretty > sure that he started to work on that feature because (just like me and > probably a lot more people in here) he saw the need of it on the > website. > > ???As you said idea's != change, but so, this is the prove that something > similar to what i did needs to be done, as im not the only one thinking > about such feature. > 1) So you posted this image... 2) Everyone liked it... 3) Patch submitted. So what happened between 2 and 3? More precisely I ask, what do you think _should_ have happened? In my mind, step 3 comes next. As a volunteer in Fedora (even long before I had @redhat.com on my email) I just kept working on stuff, pushing to get stuff in until someone said no. When they did, I found out why and fixed it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs was built with that in mind There may be a hangup or two, but those are minor technical details when compared to getting an active working site in order. -Mike -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
