Karsten,
This is new territory for me and reminds me of the days when I used to
deal with "fair use" in the digital capture and copying of material
submitted by faculty to the library reserve desk. My approach on issues
like this is to just put the question to Omniture and see what they
say. I do know that they have a rather large piece of javascript
embedded in a function call that does all the heavy lifting of logic
when it comes to marking up the image call to their backend servers. I
have no idea what it means to have a FLOSS license on a piece of
javascript that sends marked up query strings to an opaque service
handler. Even if the javascript were released under a FLOSS license it
would not be usable without a contract with Omniture to enable a network
service to talk with it. Right now I don't see compatibility. You
might want to mention something to the awstats community about adding
client side tracking to the software might be something of interest to
the community.
Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 15:55 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Do the pieces of software (the javascript on the
client in this case) have an open source license?
Sorry to arrive late to this discussion.
The Omniture JS code used to be on fedora.redhat.com, and it was
docs.fedoraproject.org for a while. Mike McGrath (iirc) and I were
discussing its existence one day when we noticed docs.fp.o was loading
slowly due to the Omniture calls. So, that was one mark against the
service in general -- it presented another point of failure on release
days, which are ironically the days we'd want the most traffic analysis
for.
The reason I decided to yank the code is clear -- it is not-FLOSS and we
have no rights to use or distribute it as part of Fedora Project web
properties.
Here is a sample of the Omniture JS from redhatmagazine.com:
<!-- SiteCatalyst code version: H.1.
Copyright 1997-2005 Omniture, Inc. More info available at
http://www.omniture.com sec -->
<div id="oTags">
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var s_account = "redhatcom";
-->
</script>
<script language="JavaScript" src="/js/s_code.js"></script>
<script language="JavaScript" src="http://www.redhat.com/j/rh_omni_footer.js";></script>
<script language="JavaScript"><!--
if(navigator.appVersion.indexOf('MSIE')>=0)document.write(unescape('%3C')+'\!-'+'-')
//--></script><noscript><img
src="https://smtrcs.redhat.com/b/ss/redhatcom/1/H.2--NS/0";
height="1" width="1" border="0" alt="" /></noscript><!--/DO NOT REMOVE/-->
</div><!-- oTags -->
<!-- End SiteCatalyst code version: H.1. -->
The code only has a copyright notice and no FLOSS license.
As Toshio states later in this email, that is the #1 blocker. I
consider the "added point of failure" #2, because of historical problems
with Omniture that I'm not convinced are just history.
So Jesse -- if you can find out if Omniture can or will license that
code under an OSI approved license, then we'll actually have something
to discuss. Otherwise, it is a ForbiddenItem.
- Karsten
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