Re: F41 Firefox migration

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:31 AM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 2/27/25 8:17 AM, Barry wrote:
> >
> >> On 27 Feb 2025, at 10:39, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> But how to update the cert file? Which one is it or will the next firefox update replace it?
> > I would have assumed that the cert is shipped with firefox itself.
>
> There is a signed trust list that every browser vendor provides.  It
> gets updated whenever a new cert is add.  It possible is included in
> each update even when not changed.

See <https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Included_Certificates> and friends.

And follow the link to the "... documented on a best effort basis
[sic]", and pay attention to DistrustAfter. Browsers use DistrustAfter
to include CAs that have been kicked out of the Root Store programs,
like Entrust. See
<https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Additional_Trust_Changes>.

> But it is there, I just have to find the one that was installed when I
> built the system and copy it over the old cruft I moved over.
>
> Tahar ElGamal, a student of Rivest at MIT, holds the patent (long
> expired) on SSL and the approach of a trust list of root certs.  He was
> one of my mentors a few decades ago.  His SSL got us off ground zero and
> gave us a path for deploying X509 certs for trust-building.  I have been
> in countless discussions of the various approaches to trust.  I myself
> am the author of the Bridge CA model (circa '98) used in a few PKIs.
>
> This doesn't mean I cannot shoot myself in the foot at times, overlaying
> the new list with an old one!

Jeff
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