Tim: >> Just thought I'd try asking here, because I'm not having much luck with >> Google... >> >> Many times, way too many damn times, if I try to access some address >> with Firefox it will go into HTTPS mode when I don't want it to. Will McDonald: > Untested but browser.fixup.fallback-to-https in about:config looks > like a likely candidate. > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30532471/firefox-redirects-to-https > might be useful too. That seems to be the magic solution. For what it's worth, for the sake of my sanity, and maybe it'll help others, I've made these changes: browser.fixup.fallback-to-https = false This should stop any time I want to go to http://192.168.1.254 changing without my authority to https://192.168.1.254. As far as I'm concerned that should never have happened, and automatically choosing that protocol would only be *barely* tolerable if I'd simply typed in 192.168.1.254 without any protocol prefix. dom.security.https_first = false dom.security.https_first_pbm = false These would appear to be presuming to use a HTTPS protocol if I hadn't typed in any protocol prefixing the address (like if I'd simply typed in 192.168.1.254). The first one for general windows (and it was already false, by default), the second one for private browsing windows (and it was true, by default). network.stricttransportsecurity.preloadlist = false This was suggested (by my earlier google searches) as the likely answer, but didn't help with this problem. It may, however, help with other addresses that someone else has made assumptions about ought to be HTTPS instead of HTTP (disabling those presumptions). keyword.enabled = false Another config choice was to add the separate search bar next to the address bar, and stop the address bar from doing internet searches. So that when you type in something like router (and hit enter) it doesn't do a google search for routers, but only tries to connect to something with router as the hostname. This has been another nuisance that I've, now, stopped. If what I type doesn't connect, *I* can decide on the next course of action. NB: This doesn't stop the address bar from offering previous addresses that you've visited as suggestions, or finding things you've bookmarked (appearing in a list popping up below the the addressbar), when you start to type them. *Local* searching still works, so to speak. It may also help with mDNS local hostnames (being just a local search not a google search), but I don't use mDNS to be able to try that out. browser.urlbar.trimURLs = false This stops the address bar from hiding the http:// or https:// protocol prefixes before the address. Eliminating guessing games about what it's doing. I consider that as dumb as Windows hiding filename suffixes (where you can't tell hackme.jpg apart from hackme.exe). I also ensure DNS over HTTPS is disabled, because I want *my* DNS server to be the thing that provides answers. Only my DNS server can answer LAN queries. An external server is something that I cannot control to blackhole nuisances, and it might censor queries. My ISP's DNS server was always terrible (overloaded, slow, and often wrong). Other search results suggested finding problematic addresses and removing them from the history, to stop Firefox doing the same thing as it tried last time. I haven't followed up on doing this, because it doesn't seem to have been necessary. Of course it's up to *me* to ensure that when I do something like log onto a banking site I'm using a HTTPS address (this is something where the now often ignored bookmarking browser feature is a really good thing - some people google search *everything*). And the sanely written service provider sites will make sure that visiting them via HTTP will give you a different landing page that moves you into the HTTPS site before giving you any logon boxes to type into. If only I could configure mobile device browsers similarly! One on my my phone has no address bar if the browser has been opened up by a link you've clicked elsewhere. You just have the site's domain name at the top, and no navigational bar to see where you are, or hand type something into it. Dumbing things down to the point that they're painful. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue