On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 09:20 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I have stopped using the email address provided as part of my > subscription because the company that bought my isp out has moved > email support to an external company that charges for the service, > and even though the isp paid for the first 12 months, when that 12 > months expired I refused to pay for the service that was previously > "free", especially when the isp subscription hasn't changed in price. I stopped using my ISP's mail decades ago. The last one never worked, but it's used as a stranglehold to stop customers leaving a poor ISP (if you leave us, you'll lose your email address that you rely on). Though, now, many ISPs are abandoning email services, since they don't want the responsibilities it entails (spam management, and providing customer support), though still want the same amount of money from you. Quite a few of the lists I was on were hosted on Yahoo, back then, and Yahoo was also responsible for most of the spam, so I decided I'd use their email services for list mail participation, and I still do. Gmail didn't exist back then, and Yahoo's mail is still less painful than Gmail (though not by an outstanding degree). Years later I set up my own domain name, and chose a web and mail host which allows me to do my own thing (and they can be separate or combined services - including through gmail). From time to time the hosting services have changed, with buyouts, service degradations, and better offers. But since the addresses are mine they stay the same. If you want your own address, forever, then owning your own domain name is the way to go. You can pick and choose whatever server actually handles it for you. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue