On Dec 6, 2024, at 22:14, Stephen Morris <steve.morris.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What determines that the lock file is valid? In the case of Thunderbird where it creates a lock file in folder for my profile and the folder where Thunderbird is installed to, the symlinks are dangling while Thunderbird is running, if firefox is the same while firefox is running the lock symlink is dangling and after firefox shuts down it is left there dangling, hence what determines whether or not it is valid? I think you are being a bit too strict with this command. The way Firefox and thunderbird encode a hostname and PID in a symlink is a reeeally old way of doing it, it predates Firefox entirely. It’s how Firefox can tell if a running instance already exists, so it can tell it to open a link instead of starting a brand new session. (The “remote” functionality). If the hostname matches and the pid is active, use the pid. If the hostname matches and the pid is not Firefox or doesn’t exist, start a new session and delete the old one. If the hostname doesn’t match, complain to the user that Firefox is running on another host (for shared home across systems). Firefox is *supposed* to clean it up but perhaps you killed it uncleanly or by a shutdown. I think you are taking the “symlinks” command a bit too seriously. There’s nothing wrong with how Firefox uses a symlink like this. I’ve seen quite a few other apps use it that way. Don’t get bent out of shape about it, there’s nothing in the spec that says a symlink must point at a file. I suspect you should rethink using it on $HOME. It’s fine for detecting broken software or in a specific directory. -- Jonathan Billings -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue