Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

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On 15/11/24 9:00 am, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/11/24 15:50, fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 5/11/24 4:32 am, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2024-11-04 at 23:03 +1100, fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Note the fact that these messages are NOT junked when they arrive,
but rather a significant time later, when the folder is opened.

Are the options for filter messages in *all* folders?  As opposed to
just the inbox.

I do not think that there are folder specific rules in tb.
I'm using the daily version of Thunderbird with two email addresses and local folders, and the "Message Filters" interface provides the ability to input rules for both mailboxes and the local folders.

I see it now. I use only one email address so all filters are in one place.

I said "folders" referring to where I classify messages using the filters, all under the one email account.
May be you refer to email accounts as "folders"? I have one old (unused) account that has no filters
and my (only) active account that has all the filters.

I am now waiting a few minutes after fetching mail before opening folders, to see if the issue shows.
I am now on tb "128.4.2esr (64-bit)"

regards,
Steve


NB:  I don't *use* Thunderbird, I occasionally look at it and had it
installed on some PCs.

I switch off junk mail filtering on my mail clients, it's a pain.  Too
many false positives and negatives.  I don't want to lose real mail, I
don't want to check a spam folder (if I'm checking that, why bother to
move them to a different folder?).

I just kept my email addresses as private as can be, and only get about
2 spams a day.  Easy enough to just hit delete on them, and far less
effort than dealing with crappy filtering.

Using the junk filter is not that bad.
- I mark the junk folder to show only unread messages. Junked messages are NOT marked as read.
  This way it is trivial to see what was junked, which can be cleared with Shift-C.
- it is uncommon to have a valid message junked.
  If it happens then I just click the junk icon of the message

I did not see the problem for a few days, after I
- replaced the mouse
- replaced the KVM
- updated the software (so a new kernel). TB is now "128.4.0esr (64-bit)"

I thought this was it, but then in the last few days the problem is back.

This activity is recorded in the "Activity Manager" but not in the "Adaptive Junk Mail Log".

Another (maybe related?) effect is that every now and then I notice that new tabs
were opened when I did not do this. As if I hit Enter on (or Double-Clicked) some messages.
This is something I had for a very long time (at least all year).

I have another machine with identical setup where I never had these issues.

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