Here are the outputs of the various other commands you recommended I run: sudo pvs: PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/sda2 fedora_localhost-live lvm2 a-- <110.79g 0 sudo vgs VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree fedora_localhost-live 1 3 0 wz--n- <110.79g 0 sudo lvs LV VG Attr LSize Pool Origin Data% Meta% Move Log Cpy%Sync Convert home fedora_localhost-live -wi-ao---- 52.87g root fedora_localhost-live -wi-ao---- 50.00g swap fedora_localhost-live -wi-ao---- 7.91g sudo df -Tk Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root ext4 51290592 48248260 404508 100% / devtmpfs devtmpfs 4096 0 4096 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 4061620 0 4061620 0% /dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs 1624652 1888 1622764 1% /run /dev/loop0 squashfs 128 128 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/bare/5 /dev/loop1 squashfs 57088 57088 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2829 /dev/loop3 squashfs 76032 76032 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core22/1621 /dev/loop2 squashfs 56704 56704 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2846 /dev/loop4 squashfs 75648 75648 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core22/1663 /dev/loop5 squashfs 67840 67840 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core24/490 /dev/loop6 squashfs 67840 67840 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core24/609 /dev/loop7 squashfs 168832 168832 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-28-1804/194 /dev/loop8 squashfs 168832 168832 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-28-1804/198 /dev/loop9 squashfs 516352 516352 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-42-2204/172 /dev/loop10 squashfs 517248 517248 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-42-2204/176 /dev/loop11 squashfs 412032 412032 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-46-2404/42 /dev/loop12 squashfs 416128 416128 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-46-2404/48 /dev/loop13 squashfs 93952 93952 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1535 /dev/loop14 squashfs 216576 216576 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/mesa-2404/143 /dev/loop15 squashfs 230400 230400 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/mesa-2404/44 /dev/loop16 squashfs 178944 178944 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/signal-desktop/720 /dev/loop17 squashfs 177920 177920 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/signal-desktop/724 /dev/loop18 squashfs 39680 39680 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/21465 /dev/loop20 squashfs 458240 458240 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/telegram-desktop/6261 /dev/loop19 squashfs 39808 39808 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/21759 /dev/loop21 squashfs 457856 457856 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/telegram-desktop/6266 tmpfs tmpfs 4061624 640 4060984 1% /tmp /dev/sdb2 ext4 960173080 328045408 583279800 36% /crypt /dev/sda1 ext4 996780 366208 561760 40% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home ext4 54253864 1774744 49690768 4% /home tmpfs tmpfs 812324 152 812172 1% /run/user/1000 Output of sudo yum clean all 988 files removed And now, using Dolphin, I find that the / LV no longer has that concerning red line, and is showing 5.6 GiB free. Have I just freed up the space I need? Or did I do no more than remove the upgrade binaries that were all I had room to store before everything ran out of space? Just how much space do the dnf upgrade packages take up for a Fedora 40->41 upgrade? How would you advise reclaiming some of the space I allocated to /home without needing to? (The /home partition mostly contains symlinks referring to directories that I store on /crypt. The /crypt petition is a 1 TB SDD with plenty of space; that's for data only.) If I can have a walk-through to manage readjusting between / and /home without using parted or GParted, somebody could do me a really big favor. (I already know NOT to use fdisk!) Temlakos On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 8:05 AM Will McDonald <wmcdonald@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 at 12:21, Terry Hurlbut <temlakos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Answers to Will's questions: >> At least 4437 MB more space required on the / filesystem. >> >> Output of lsblk: >> >> NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS >> <snip> >> sda 8:0 0 111.8G 0 disk >> ├─sda1 8:1 0 1G 0 part /boot >> └─sda2 8:2 0 110.8G 0 part >> ├─fedora_localhost--live-root 253:0 0 50G 0 lvm / >> ├─fedora_localhost--live-swap 253:1 0 7.9G 0 lvm [SWAP] >> └─fedora_localhost--live-home 253:2 0 52.9G 0 lvm /home >> sdb 8:16 0 931.5G 0 disk >> ├─sdb1 8:17 0 128M 0 part >> └─sdb2 8:18 0 931.4G 0 part /crypt > > > Both your / and /home are on LVM, that might give you some options to juggle. What's the output of > > # pvs > # vgs > # lvs > >> Output of df -h: >> ilesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 49G 47G 396M 100% / >> /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 52G 1.7G 48G 4% /home >> tmpfs 794M 152K 794M 1% /run/user/1000 >> >> Output of du -xk / | sort -n -k1 | tail -20: >> 3055132 /var/lib/flatpak >> 3145220 /var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/usr >> 3317376 /var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug >> 3317380 /var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib >> 3405388 /var/cache/abrt-di/usr >> 3405392 /var/cache/abrt-di > > > According to https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/130802 that /var/cache/abrt-di can be cleared down, that'll get you ~3.5GiB. > >> >> 3602180 /usr/lib >> 3683844 /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/fedora-7efbab3c1dbcd0d4/packages >> 3720924 /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/fedora-7efbab3c1dbcd0d4 >> 5532256 /var/cache/dnf >> 5741152 /var/lib/snapd >> 5762344 /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade >> 5816828 /var/lib/dnf >> 6108620 /usr/share >> 6801300 /usr/lib64 >> 9175600 /var/cache >> 15815688 /var/lib >> 18315588 /usr >> 27260332 /var >> 48248356 / > > > "yum clean all" might claw back a little more space if the upgrade binaries are stored separately? > >> Another thing: in my search of Linux partitioning tools I discovered, on the site Geeks for Geeks, two GUI partition management tools that allegedly offer "data integrity," meaning I could repartition a device without losing data on the partition(s) affected by the repartitioning operation. The ones recommended to me are GParted and the KDE partition manager. I am running in a KDE environment. Would anyone recommend either of those two partitioning tools? > > > I'd look at LVM before starting to mess with moving/resizing partition boundaries. I didn't actually check which file systems are on your devices, what does the following show: > > # df -Tk > > You could steal some space from /home and reallocate to / following: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/213245/increase-root-partition-by-reducing-home#213417 > > -- > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Temlakos <temlakos@xxxxxxxxx> -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue