Re: My from address on this list

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 3:09 AM Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 10/21/24 11:28 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 1:58 AM Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/21/24 9:09 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>> Why does my "From:" come out "Community support for
> >>> Fedora users" when my posts show on this list?
> >>
> >> There are certain providers who have spam protection settings that cause
> >> problems with mailing lists.  I assume yours is one of them.  For email
> >> addresses with those providers, the mailing list rewrites the From to be
> >> from the mailing list and puts your original email address as the CC.
> >
> > Small nit... It is not the job of mailing list software to rewrite
> > headers for a mailing list. In fact, it breaks SPF and DKIM, and
> > violates the RFCs. Specifically, RFC 5322.
> >
> > If someone signs up for a mailing list, then the member is expected to
> > receive the communications from the list. If the member does not want
> > the communications, then the member should run local filters or leave
> > the list. And if the member wants different behavior for "Reply" and
> > "Reply-To-All" for a mailing list, then the member should configure
> > their MUA accordingly.
> >
> > Also see Tolerating Mailing-List Modifications,
> > <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chuang-mailing-list-modifications-04.html>.
>
> You've completed missed the issue here.  The spam settings of the
> sender's provider causes some receiving providers to reject the email.

This is the user not accepting messages. In this case, it is the
user's agent a/k/a the provider. The user is responsible for the agent
they choose.

> Neither user on either end wants this to happen.  So the mailing list
> becomes the sender, which is completely valid, and then there is no
> issue for those receiving it.

It is not valid, and you won't find a RFC authorizing it. And it
breaks SPF and DKIM authentications.

Jeff
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