Tim: >> I'm wondering what *less* user data separation means? Barry: > I assume it means using btrfs to put / and /home into the same file system. > For a server the data that the server handles is in a separate file system. > > The trade offs for a server and a desktop and different. > The bit, in the post I replied to had a couple of aspects that piqued my interest. * One comment was quite understandable, with separating user data from system data. Where /home could be an independent partition, or a directory, or one of those malleable pretend partitions. Giving differing controls over separation. * The other comment was about separating different user data from each other. Which sounded like it meant user joebloggs versus user janedoe, etc. I have some NASs that are a complete minefield in that regards. They like to store data as owned by nobody, or everybody. Then control access by how you log on (very Windows 98-like). Which doesn't help when you access the data via some other method (e.g. NFS versus SMB) and in the meantime it's made some directory be owned by someone else and you lose access to it. Then they have pseudo partitions of PUBLIC versus your private files. All in all, it's incoherent and inconsistent. I have mixed feelings about (allegedly) making things easier for the technically illiterate. Often it's not very well thought out, and it's just another confusing way to do something, or dumbed down the point where it's worse than useless. And making computing easier for the less knowledgeable is the reason why we had masses of computer viruses (people with little clue about safe computing being exploited by asshats with no moral conscience). The blackhats who falsely claim to be improving things by discovering flaws (and then exploiting them maliciously) should be treated like arsonists (with derision and deprivation of liberty). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
