Tim: >> A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file >> still remaining and handle it itself. Joe Zeff: > And how do you suggest that it detects it? Other programs manage it, dunno what's so magic about it. It's not a problem that *I* need to solve. After a reboot, cron &/or fetchmail reports there was a stale lock and removes it, I get this email each time: Cron <tim@rocky> /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900 (From: (Cron Daemon) <tim@rocky>) fetchmail: removing stale lockfile And, in the past, lock files were done in RAM (tmpfs), which was empty at each boot. So this couldn't happen. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.108.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 16:17:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue