On 12/5/23 8:59 PM, home user wrote:
On 12/5/23 7:39 PM, John Mellor wrote:
On 2023-12-05 8:45 p.m., home user wrote:
(Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0)
In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38. Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird.
1. When I switch e-mail accounts or folders within an e-mail account, the list of messages (shows subject, sender, date, time, etc.) consistently scrolls away from the most recent message by several lines. It also often does this when I manually scroll to a desired message and select it. Further, when I delete a message, the message list scrolls by several lines.
2. In the calendar, when I select a date and click any of the New Event things (button, menu item, etc.), the Thunderbird window locks up. I have to click the New Event thing a few times before Thunderbird unlocks. Then a few new event GUIs pop up. After that, I am able to create the new event.
These problems showed up immediately after the F37 to F38 upgrade. So the problems seem more likely to be the Fedora upgrade rather than Thunderbird itself. Six Thunderbird patches (according to dnf history) since the upgrade have made no difference.
How do I fix this?
The F37 -> F38 upgrade completely messed up the Thunderbird install. That should have been a blocker issue, but wasn't for some reason. Because of the new X/Wayland behaviour changes, you need to install the thunderbird-wayland package as a wrapper to fix the platform breakage, and change your app on the toolbar to be the thunderbird-wayland wrapper instead of referencing plain old thunderbird.
There are plans to fix this Wayland issue with a Thunderbird redesign , but I don't think that there is a timeline for that to be released yet. Yes, it sucks when the platform APIs that your key app depends upon are unstable. Meanwhile, this wrapper hack should be put in the Fedora FAQs and the Fedora known workarounds lists.
I almost always use Gnome with X, not wayland. Even the test I reported in my previous post (in response to Richard) was KDE with X, not wayland. Should thunderbird-wayland be installed and used by us X users?
I went ahead and installed it this morning. It is an improvement, but doesn't fix everything...
1. (e-mail)
...switching e-mail accounts or folders - not fixed.
...scrolling to and selecting a different message - fixed.
...deleting a message - fixed.
2. creating calendar events - not fixed.
I've tested in Gnome with X so far.
(just conversation)
yeah, I know the switch to wayland is coming, and I will have to adapt eventually. I wonder how "glitchy" things will be when that happens.
I'd be a little surprised if there are statistics for these, but I'm curious. Currently,
- what is the most used desktop environment among the members of this list?
- which is most used among members of this list: X or wayland?
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